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this cloak radiates for the masses as my

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anniversary July 8 1947 the Army Air

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Forces has announced that a flying too

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has been found and is now in the

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possession of the RA the game is rigged

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change begins page I occasionally think

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how quickly our differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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this is safety black with your host

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Jimmy Church on the game changer radial

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I need your help to get to the Year 1985

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you're the man - thank you glad with

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all right what up what up what I went up

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with a fade to black the smoke radio for

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the masses yeah man

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today's Tuesday June 13th 163 days into

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the new year just 200 in two days left

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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downtown Burbank California and I would

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like to welcome everybody listening all

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around the world all across the United

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States hither and thither to and fro

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back and forth up and down east and west

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north and south far and near this is

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fade to black for kjp are the game

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changer networking kgr hey the planet

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I'm Yours Timmy Church

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what is cracking everybody how you doing

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man oh man night two of an amazing week

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that we've got here on fade to black

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great show last night with Joshua P worn

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by the way just absolutely amazing

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always great when he's on the show but

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tonight

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so that we have very special guests

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director investigator cat

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Gaelic is here now we're going to talk

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about his new documentary serve no face

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that's right and his serve no face tour

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you just go to sur no face comm check

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out the tour dates look at the trailer

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for the film it is right there and it's

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a good snatcher normal trailer and

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things like 15 minutes long go and check

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it out it's pretty cool pretty cool so

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that's what we're going to talk about

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tonight and you know is this is this and

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I've talked to Jack quite a bit we're

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going to find out tonight but but is

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this the proof is just a proof right

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we've been waiting for that definitive

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piece of footage of a ghost caught on

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tape there's a lot of stuff out there

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there's plenty of it we've all seen it

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all and most of it is just clever

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trickery you know and somebody that's

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got some decent software and they're

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doing stuff for YouTube and they're

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getting clicks but that's not the case

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here okay so the film is called sir no

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face it's a documentary and like I said

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go check out the trailer right now it's

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sir no face calm Chad's can be with us

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at the bottom of the hour very excited

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about the future with this films going

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to be really cool tomorrow night we are

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having a roundtable discussion on if our

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UFO community has been infiltrated

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that's right we're going to do that

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tomorrow night we have ten guests lined

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up and the very best of the best and

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pretty exciting stuff so just stay tuned

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it's going to be a lively show tomorrow

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night Thursday night by the way is

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another Fator night with Jon Rappoport

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and it's a more fake newsroom live

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followed by open lines all night long

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taking your phone calls like we do every

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Thursday night open lines fader night

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book YouTube to go to the website Jimmy

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Twitter that is hashtag f2 B and if you

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have any questions or comments on the

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throughout the show they get to as many

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Jimmy at Jimmy Church radio.com breaking

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news today American College student otto

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warmbier was released after 17 months of

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detention in North Korea is expected to

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arrive at the University of Cincinnati

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Medical Center late today it should have

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arrived right before showtime we were

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waiting for confirmation on that he

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should have arrived uh right about now

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he had been in a coma for over a year

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and this is according to his parents he

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returns to the u.s. as questions you

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know swirl about his health and what

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happened to him while he was detained by

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the North Korean government he's 22

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years old and he contracted botulism

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last year and slipped into a coma after

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taking a sleeping pill and this is all

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according to North Korea so we won't

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really know until he comes out of this

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coma it happened on the same day that

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Dennis Rodman arrived in North Korea

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don't know if the two are related no I

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would say that they are but nonetheless

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pretty ungai man just mmm right now I

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just hope that he's okay and that he

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comes out of his coma but a year but

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he's back here in the states and he'll

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get the best medical care but botulism

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the whole thing he he was arrested at

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the airport now I'm going off of my

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memory here but I remember when it

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happened and I talked about it on the

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show he was in his hotel and there was a

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banner I believe on a wall

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all in the hotel and he decided to you

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know keep it as a souvenir

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usually there's nothing wrong with that

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but it is North Korea should have done

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it but anyway he pulls the banner down

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off the wall but then I guess he left it

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on the floor he didn't actually steal it

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they detained him at the airport arrest

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him and and his trial lasted one hour

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and he was sentenced to 15 years hard

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labor

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yeah and that's what North Korea is all

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about it's really funny when i crack

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jokes about kim fatty fat or whatever

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you know somebody will inevitably send

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me an email go dude man you're too harsh

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in North Korea man you don't know man

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you know what you live here in the

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United States the fact that you can even

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send me an email

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and run your mouth is or run your

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keyboard is proof that this is a cool

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country you know and if you don't like

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what I have to say about Kim fatty fat

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you know fly to Beijing go to P on gang

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and enjoy your life they will love to

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have you there and if you need help with

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a plane ticket let me know but if that's

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it's it's harsh man

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this country the beautiful thing about

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the United States is the United States

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we have issues here we do and and I

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admit to all of those but every time

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that I say how great this country is you

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know somebody will shoot me an email

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from Europe or another country and go

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dude you you Americans think you've got

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a great well you know what that's not

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even the point if you live wherever you

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live wherever you are that country

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you're supposed to think that your

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country is the greatest you know hey

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that goes with the territory I live here

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but the difference between where I am

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sitting and how I comment is that I have

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been outside of this country

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I have lived outside of this country and

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I have seen how other countries are and

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and it's not good now you look back into

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the United States from outside of the

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United States and you wonder how anybody

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in the United States complains ever

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about anything it's like we don't have a

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right it is really that great here you

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know and and man and so when you go to a

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country it doesn't even matter man North

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Korea but go to another country go to

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Venezuela or Colombia or Paraguay

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Honduras man I just go there and fart

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around you know do something and deal

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with the local police yeah all right you

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just don't goof around man you don't do

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it and especially something like that at

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North Korean don't even know what you're

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thinking at that point you're going to

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get in trouble about 15 years of hard

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labor that's ridiculous getting arrested

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at all is ridiculous and and you know

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contracting botulism and getting stuck

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in some Korean prison for a year in a

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coma that is it's unbelievable I mean

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it's just beyond the realm but

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nonetheless he is back and I just want

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to see him get healthy and I won his

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parents to to enjoy their son okay so

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that's that's my take on that save your

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I'll be speaking this Saturday at

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disclosure fest the mass meditation

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initiative in downtown Los Angeles that

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is Saturday June 17th at Los Angeles

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State Historic Park tickets are free you

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just have to register over at disclosure

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that's all you have to do and we'll see

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you down there I think I'm speaking at

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hang out with us and join in on the mass

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meditation there you go now I will also

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ESET e is a bucket list situation for us

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so come over hang out with us

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Bigfoot sighting Mount Adams is right

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there james gilliland sent me a text

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yesterday when two men witches we just

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videotaped a fleet so I'm going to get

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that videotape here shortly I cannot

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wait to see it and we're going to be

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there that weekend right before July 4th

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I think July 4

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is on Tuesday so whatever that June 30th

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31st 30 seconds or however it if it

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works out of the dates will be up there

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the weekend before alright just go to

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Dimitri radio.com click on the banner

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let's get this show crackin today happy

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birthday to Tim Allen that's right today

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he's 64 starred in the documentary

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Galaxy Quest yeah I said it

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Ouiser guitarist Rivers Cuomo is 47 and

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he's a great guitar player rivers and

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one of the great things I like about

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rivers go and look at pictures of him he

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is always caught wearing like an

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invading shirt you gotta love it or you

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have a deal you know yeah just some cool

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guitar guide shirt on Rivers Cuomo great

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guitar player Weezer was a great band by

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the way today he is 47 on this day in

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history o P D 1983 after more than a

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decade in space pioneer 10 the world's

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first outer planetary probe leaves the

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solar system the next day it radioed

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back its first scientific data on

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interstellar space pretty crazy isn't it

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1983 Wow it doesn't seem like it but 30

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35 34 years ago holy crap and it spent

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10 years in space before that it seemed

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like it was never going to happen

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and now it I just can't believe that it

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was 1983 seems like it was yesterday

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fader fact housing this is a fact now

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this doesn't piss you off nothing will

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housing a prisoner for a year in

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California cost seventy five thousand

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five hundred and sixty

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dollars that's more than a year at

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Harvard seriously think about that for a

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second is there something wrong with

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that number it just can't be right

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seventy-five thousand five hundred

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somebody needs somebody do the math for

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me on that what is that per day put

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seventy five thousand dollars a year so

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uh $2,000 a month apartment that's

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twenty four grand for a two thousand

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dollar month apartment three thousand

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dollar but now you are stepping up to

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the big leagues right that's 36 grand

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which seventy five thousand five hundred

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and sixty dollars that is unbelievable

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something is corrupt there manages

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doesn't spell right

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and alright tonight very special guest

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director investigator Chad Gaelic is

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here to talk about his new documentary

335
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sir no face he's going on tour it's

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called the sir no faced or taking the

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documentary on the road he's going to be

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doing question and answer Q&A is all

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across the country a list of the cities

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that are that are ready to go now on the

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tour over at sir no face calm check it

342
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out tomorrow night we're having a

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roundtable discussion on earth on if our

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UFO community has been infiltrated has

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it and what are you going to do about it

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what we're going to talk about tomorrow

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we got ten guests lined up it's going to

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be a full show all the way from 7:00 to

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10:00 tomorrow night

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ten guests roundtable and all questions

351
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answer tomorrow night ok tonight

352
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Chad calloc is here and when we talk

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about things like the paranormal you

354
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know last night we had Joshua P Warren

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on and he's been doing this for a long

356
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time and we've had a lot of ghost

357
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hunters and different crews on this show

358
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and it it makes me want to go back and

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reflect and

360
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and talk about my one and only well

361
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maybe two but my one and only you know

362
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what check this out

363
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hold on for a second I you know what I'm

364
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gonna I'm gonna freak this guy out right

365
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now he's calling and he doesn't even

366
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know I'm live on the air and and he's

367
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calling and I'm looking you know what

368
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I'm just gonna pick up and go hey

369
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D'Souza don't you know that I'm live on

370
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the air right now yes I know that now

371
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Jimmy what's happening over there John

372
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D'Souza everybody say hello to John

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doing a drive-by and just goes to show

374
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you live radio John and and I'm doing my

375
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thing right now but I see you are such

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an important person to me if you're

377
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calling in you were supposed to call me

378
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earlier but you didn't you're calling me

379
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now so there you go I'm going to beerus

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you throw you under the bus and make you

381
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go live to a million people how you

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doing I am doing great Jimmy and I am so

383
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happy that you threw me on the air it's

384
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a pretty awesome and I heard you're

385
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doing some kind of roundtable today on

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some very important topic

387
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no the roundtable is tomorrow night but

388
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it's a good thing that you're here to be

389
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thrown under the bus because I just had

390
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it happen twice

391
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Wow John you really take one for the

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team my friend I will anything whatever

393
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you got for me I'll answer it talk about

394
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it well look what whatever you like you

395
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know you know what's funny

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we'll see you tomorrow night for the

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roundtable and nobody knows the guest

398
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list for tomorrow night but now that

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you've come on and just blown your cover

400
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you know it so so when you were in the

401
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FBI did you ever blow your cover in the

402
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FBI or did you just tell everybody here

403
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in the FBI no I usually did not but

404
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there were times when I was working in

405
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sensitive situations and my my

406
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undercover name was compromised

407
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yeah but by people you know on the

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internet so forth right so yeah I've had

409
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those moments and it's not fun it's not

410
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good but it happens you know

411
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you got to roll with it now tonight I

412
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was you know what check this out I've

413
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got to five minutes and I'm going to

414
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spend it with you right now on the air

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really quick before I have to hit a hit

416
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a break tonight we have Chad Kayla Kahn

417
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the show and if you don't know Chad he's

418
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directed and produced a lot of different

419
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ghost hunting paranormal shows on on

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cable and you know he's documentary film

421
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filmmaker and stuff but it made me want

422
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to tell this story about the only ghost

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sighting that I've ever had and the

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short version of the story is at 2:00

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a.m. 2:15 in the morning I was in the

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driveway of a friend's house in

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Hollywood in Hollywood proper right and

428
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I look over and I was away the driveway

429
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was empty I'm waiting for them to get

430
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there too you know and so I'm sitting in

431
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the driveway and I look over and the

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curtains the big picture window in the

433
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front of the house and the curtains part

434
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and a face peeks out and looks at me

435
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right so I get out of the car I'm like

436
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Oh somebody's home okay so I walk up

437
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nobody opens up the door I'm you know

438
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I'm pounding on the door you know what

439
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he doing and whoever is inside looked at

440
00:21:33,499 --> 00:21:30,990
me right well anyway while that is going

441
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on I go back to my car and I'm upset

442
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that somebody's in the house and not

443
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letting me in making me sit in the

444
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driveway at 2:00 a.m. and the people

445
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that were at that they pull up behind me

446
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and I'm like you know somebody's home

447
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your roommate no she's over somewhere

448
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else and now everybody's freaked out we

449
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we go that some other the other roommate

450
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pulls up with her boyfriend we go in the

451
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house and we're ready to kick ass and

452
00:22:03,110 --> 00:22:00,419
take names right we think there's a

453
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burglar or somebody in the house all the

454
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windows and doors are locked and back

455
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doors locked everything sealed up it's

456
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you know anyway nobody is in the house

457
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and I walk back to the window and I

458
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pulled back the curtain and looked at my

459
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car which is like 20 feet away and I'm

460
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imagining

461
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this fat you know what what what

462
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transpired i mike wait a minute this

463
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curtain literally and i freaked and i'd

464
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still to this day it's unexplained but

465
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that really happened have you ever had

466
00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:36,030
an experience like that have you ever

467
00:22:40,360 --> 00:22:38,370
seen a ghost for real like i have you

468
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ever seen a ghost

469
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well i did have a very similar

470
00:22:51,549 --> 00:22:46,110
experience to that but it was a shadow

471
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person experience where my my wife is a

472
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is a petite lady she has very unique

473
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dimensions and i was in my bedroom

474
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looking in the in towards the closet and

475
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I wasn't looking directly but there was

476
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a woman in there rummaging through her

477
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clothing but it was a gray a shorter

478
00:23:20,659 --> 00:23:17,820
shadow person which I didn't realize

479
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until I called out to it several times

480
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and I asked my wife to ask my wife what

481
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:25,679
are you doing in there

482
00:23:28,730 --> 00:23:27,570
I need you to do something over here

483
00:23:32,120 --> 00:23:28,740
what are you doing

484
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:32,130
and the person whoever it was just kept

485
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rummaging through my wife's clothing

486
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which looked exactly like my wife except

487
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I realized it was grayish shadow kind of

488
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silhouette when eventually my wife calls

489
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out from the kitchen right and I click

490
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that wasn't you that whole time and she

491
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:49,110
says no no and I look in there I look

492
00:23:52,700 --> 00:23:51,330
directly at whatever it was and of

493
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:52,710
course it disappeared once I looked

494
00:23:58,730 --> 00:23:56,010
directly at it and that was some kind of

495
00:24:01,010 --> 00:23:58,740
bleed over from another I don't know

496
00:24:03,620 --> 00:24:01,020
parallel dimension or something or I go

497
00:24:06,740 --> 00:24:03,630
ahead it looked just like her the

498
00:24:09,049 --> 00:24:06,750
silhouette the the outlines of of

499
00:24:11,899 --> 00:24:09,059
whatever it was but it was some kind of

500
00:24:14,779 --> 00:24:11,909
shadow thing is what it really was only

501
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:14,789
one time only one time that happened yes

502
00:24:23,810 --> 00:24:17,250
yeah see for me only one time to you

503
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:23,820
know I I didn't dig it the next day the

504
00:24:31,789 --> 00:24:27,650
landlord for the house was by older

505
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:31,799
oriental guy and and we told him what

506
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:33,850
had happened the night before and

507
00:24:38,730 --> 00:24:37,090
was the back house right well it was

508
00:24:40,860 --> 00:24:38,740
it's called a back house but it's a it's

509
00:24:44,669 --> 00:24:40,870
a night you know it's a house but but he

510
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:44,679
goes uh yeah my my son a couple of years

511
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:48,250
ago committed suicide and lit himself on

512
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fire in front of the fireplace here and

513
00:24:57,930 --> 00:24:53,669
that's why I can't rent the house out

514
00:25:00,480 --> 00:24:57,940
cuz like wood engines what you know and

515
00:25:01,860 --> 00:25:00,490
and I went and late because no come on

516
00:25:02,580 --> 00:25:01,870
I'll show you and I'm like nah that's

517
00:25:05,340 --> 00:25:02,590
cool man

518
00:25:08,039 --> 00:25:05,350
and I went and I looked through the back

519
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:08,049
window and looked and there it was right

520
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:09,490
in front of the fire wooden floors right

521
00:25:14,970 --> 00:25:10,450
in front of the fireplace like a

522
00:25:17,299 --> 00:25:14,980
ten-foot black burnt circle yeah man and

523
00:25:20,549 --> 00:25:17,309
some things you just can't make up right

524
00:25:22,169 --> 00:25:20,559
that flipped me out now are the two

525
00:25:24,659 --> 00:25:22,179
connected there's two different houses I

526
00:25:27,419 --> 00:25:24,669
don't know but that was pretty trippy

527
00:25:29,130 --> 00:25:27,429
that was anything she literally said he

528
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:29,140
can't rent the house out of like no

529
00:25:32,580 --> 00:25:29,770
kidding

530
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:32,590
man fix that floor do you I wonder if

531
00:25:37,289 --> 00:25:34,570
you have to disclose that right you go

532
00:25:40,049 --> 00:25:37,299
and rent a house do you have to disclose

533
00:25:43,049 --> 00:25:40,059
out if they died you are supposed to in

534
00:25:45,299 --> 00:25:43,059
on the East Coast you are yeah yeah I've

535
00:25:48,060 --> 00:25:45,309
often wondered about that I mean there

536
00:25:51,690 --> 00:25:48,070
must be deaths in a lot of homes and do

537
00:25:53,430 --> 00:25:51,700
you have to disclose it you know and

538
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:53,440
yeah what do you do just tear the house

539
00:25:56,100 --> 00:25:55,450
down to build a new one yeah that's

540
00:25:58,409 --> 00:25:56,110
bizarre

541
00:25:59,880 --> 00:25:58,419
well John we'll see you tomorrow night

542
00:26:03,149 --> 00:25:59,890
right here my friend I'll talk to you

543
00:26:05,130 --> 00:26:03,159
tomorrow during the day but until then

544
00:26:06,360 --> 00:26:05,140
you know keep one eye open tonight

545
00:26:08,250 --> 00:26:06,370
because we're going to have a really

546
00:26:11,779 --> 00:26:08,260
cool ghost show and I think you should

547
00:26:13,770 --> 00:26:11,789
listen to it as as we depart here and

548
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check out the show tonight it's going to

549
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be really cool ooh give me thanks John

550
00:26:20,630 --> 00:26:18,640
D'Souza everybody doing the drive-by

551
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:20,640
thank you John we'll see you tomorrow

552
00:26:27,090 --> 00:26:24,850
there you go John D'Souza doing a

553
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drive-by alright I'm going to get out of

554
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here tonight our guest is director

555
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investigator Chad kala we're going to be

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talking about his new documentary cerdo

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face all night tonight stay right there

558
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I'll be right back

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621
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listening to Jimmy Georgia brave yo calm

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what's up what opening comment and we're

623
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all right welcome back fade to black i'm

624
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your host jimmy church follow me on

625
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627
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628
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do that let's get this show crackin chad

629
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:07,350
kalloch is the director and producer of

630
00:31:12,620 --> 00:31:09,690
the american ghost hunter documentary

631
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which chronicled the kale ik family's 20

632
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year battle with the paranormal

633
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including calyx attempt to determine if

634
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his own mother's alleged possession

635
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issues were an authentic or merely a

636
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case of mistaken mental illness american

637
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ghost hunter would become the only

638
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independent paranormal documentary -

639
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over claim the number one schoiar

640
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position as the number one watched movie

641
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in america on hulu and it's currently

642
00:31:41,930 --> 00:31:38,460
the number three most watched paranormal

643
00:31:44,060 --> 00:31:41,940
film of all time on hulu he spent over

644
00:31:46,370 --> 00:31:44,070
25 years investigating the world's most

645
00:31:48,590 --> 00:31:46,380
haunted locations in search of answers

646
00:31:51,380 --> 00:31:48,600
to the bizarre the mysterious and the

647
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:51,390
unexplained although known for capturing

648
00:31:55,250 --> 00:31:53,010
some of the most compelling evidence in

649
00:31:57,140 --> 00:31:55,260
the history of the paranormal field he

650
00:31:59,720 --> 00:31:57,150
has also developed a reputation as a

651
00:32:01,970 --> 00:31:59,730
staunch debunker who has discovered

652
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:01,980
rational explanations to many of the

653
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:04,170
world's most famous paranormal legends

654
00:32:10,100 --> 00:32:07,530
he was the co-star director of a eni's

655
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:10,110
hit reality series paranormal state and

656
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:13,410
his on-screen popularity led to A&E

657
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:15,330
producing the spin-off special entitled

658
00:32:21,950 --> 00:32:18,770
the goes to prophesies his newest is

659
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:21,960
cirno face it's a documentary which

660
00:32:26,210 --> 00:32:24,210
chronicles the Australian government

661
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:26,220
sanctioned a paranormal investigation

662
00:32:33,140 --> 00:32:29,490
that led to the filming of a full-body

663
00:32:36,530 --> 00:32:33,150
apparition now which for the first time

664
00:32:39,980 --> 00:32:36,540
in history could be what maybe then

665
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seeing the moment that definitely proves

666
00:32:46,010 --> 00:32:44,340
the existence of ghosts his website is

667
00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:46,020
cirno face comm and I would like to

668
00:32:47,630 --> 00:32:47,310
welcome for the first time to fade to

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black

670
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:51,120
Chad Kayla Chad good evening Jim a good

671
00:32:54,740 --> 00:32:53,370
evening that was a wonderful intro thank

672
00:32:56,780 --> 00:32:54,750
you so much my friend yeah

673
00:32:59,360 --> 00:32:56,790
Thank You Chad and now this is what's

674
00:33:00,360 --> 00:32:59,370
really cool Chad you get the first-time

675
00:33:02,460 --> 00:33:00,370
guest

676
00:33:05,820 --> 00:33:02,470
disclaimer now the next time you're on

677
00:33:07,950 --> 00:33:05,830
the show the next time you're on the

678
00:33:10,049 --> 00:33:07,960
show you don't get it but you're going

679
00:33:12,450 --> 00:33:10,059
to get it now which is this it's just

680
00:33:15,180 --> 00:33:12,460
you and me sitting on my couch talking

681
00:33:17,310 --> 00:33:15,190
as friends where the conversation starts

682
00:33:19,740 --> 00:33:17,320
where it ends it ends but we're going to

683
00:33:24,419 --> 00:33:19,750
end his friends you ready to go yes sir

684
00:33:28,110 --> 00:33:24,429
yes sir oh man okay Chad Before we jump

685
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:28,120
into sir no face and the trailer is uh

686
00:33:31,590 --> 00:33:30,490
you know I don't use foul language but

687
00:33:34,830 --> 00:33:31,600
I'm going to say this is pretty badass

688
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:34,840
man it's okay this is amazing really

689
00:33:37,620 --> 00:33:35,890
sets the tone

690
00:33:40,529 --> 00:33:37,630
lots of foul language in that trailer

691
00:33:45,930 --> 00:33:40,539
too I was like wow okay yeah it was an

692
00:33:47,820 --> 00:33:45,940
intense intense process making the film

693
00:33:50,789 --> 00:33:47,830
as you could see from people's responses

694
00:33:55,380 --> 00:33:50,799
that have seen it it affects them in a

695
00:33:57,149 --> 00:33:55,390
very a very heavy way and in all my

696
00:33:58,769 --> 00:33:57,159
films I like to keep things in sensor

697
00:34:00,720 --> 00:33:58,779
just really like to capture that that

698
00:34:03,450 --> 00:34:00,730
you know accurate emotion of what's

699
00:34:04,710 --> 00:34:03,460
going on you know yeah so that's why you

700
00:34:08,129 --> 00:34:04,720
hear a little bit of that yeah now

701
00:34:12,180 --> 00:34:08,139
you've been part of this paranormal

702
00:34:15,859 --> 00:34:12,190
phenomena that is a reality TV I'm

703
00:34:19,079 --> 00:34:15,869
addicted to it I'm totally I will do any

704
00:34:21,659 --> 00:34:19,089
paranormal State Ghost Adventures Ghost

705
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:21,669
Hunters Marathon dude I am there right I

706
00:34:28,710 --> 00:34:25,450
will just do it and I love the stuff now

707
00:34:31,079 --> 00:34:28,720
be you you're part of that phenomenon

708
00:34:34,919 --> 00:34:31,089
what do you think is going on with that

709
00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:34,929
is it is it advertiser driven because

710
00:34:41,070 --> 00:34:36,730
they know that they're going to attract

711
00:34:43,710 --> 00:34:41,080
the audience or is the audience starving

712
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:43,720
for this you know what what is driving

713
00:34:49,770 --> 00:34:46,810
this we have we have ghost hunting 24

714
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:49,780
hours a day on like three channels seven

715
00:34:54,810 --> 00:34:52,690
days a week I think it's a couple things

716
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:54,820
7s and it's a great question I've been

717
00:35:00,750 --> 00:34:58,210
asked it a couple times I think for me I

718
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:00,760
think there's two main things I think

719
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:04,890
led to the phenomenon of the pop culture

720
00:35:11,370 --> 00:35:08,050
ghost hunting television show first and

721
00:35:14,060 --> 00:35:11,380
foremost I think the bottom line is a

722
00:35:16,590 --> 00:35:14,070
lot of people have experiences

723
00:35:18,990 --> 00:35:16,600
Monash University in Australia and the

724
00:35:21,660 --> 00:35:19,000
US Gallup poll both did independents

725
00:35:23,940 --> 00:35:21,670
that he was three years apart and they

726
00:35:26,370 --> 00:35:23,950
both concluded that somewhere in the

727
00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:26,380
area of 70 to 74 percent of people

728
00:35:34,010 --> 00:35:30,910
living today in the world had either had

729
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:34,020
a paranormal experience or they believed

730
00:35:39,180 --> 00:35:37,090
certainly the possibility of a number of

731
00:35:42,330 --> 00:35:39,190
different paranormal categories so the

732
00:35:45,780 --> 00:35:42,340
belief is super high and I think the

733
00:35:50,940 --> 00:35:45,790
thing that really kind of made Hollywood

734
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:50,950
aware of that interest is the web the

735
00:35:55,140 --> 00:35:53,890
web you know it gave everybody the right

736
00:35:57,570 --> 00:35:55,150
to be anonymous

737
00:36:00,210 --> 00:35:57,580
on the beginning and talk about their

738
00:36:02,940 --> 00:36:00,220
fascination but things you can you know

739
00:36:05,430 --> 00:36:02,950
go to youtube and put a fake name in and

740
00:36:07,530 --> 00:36:05,440
upload your ghost videos and then you

741
00:36:09,540 --> 00:36:07,540
know people that are schoolteachers by

742
00:36:11,730 --> 00:36:09,550
day will be searching YouTube at night

743
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:11,740
you know foster their interest in ghost

744
00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:13,930
videos and Hollywood watches the web and

745
00:36:19,830 --> 00:36:16,000
they have for some time and they

746
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:19,840
realized that there's a lot a lot of

747
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:22,570
interest a lot of sub pages web pages

748
00:36:27,930 --> 00:36:25,690
websites and this goes back to you know

749
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:27,940
in the beginning of the you know the

750
00:36:33,060 --> 00:36:29,650
ghost hunters you know you know when

751
00:36:34,350 --> 00:36:33,070
they were first on and you know the web

752
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:34,360
makes it where people can communicate

753
00:36:40,110 --> 00:36:36,010
they could share their thoughts and

754
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:40,120
ideas and when I was growing up you know

755
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:41,890
you I couldn't speak about the things

756
00:36:46,050 --> 00:36:44,410
that I was experiencing where once there

757
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:46,060
was a television show that popped

758
00:36:51,090 --> 00:36:47,890
through you know what you got to give a

759
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:51,100
lot of a lot of credit to the ghost

760
00:36:56,700 --> 00:36:52,650
hunters in their first couple seasons

761
00:37:00,690 --> 00:36:56,710
once it became a hip cool thing you know

762
00:37:03,870 --> 00:37:00,700
the floodgates were open and Hawley was

763
00:37:05,730 --> 00:37:03,880
very good at seeing oh that that was

764
00:37:08,430 --> 00:37:05,740
cool that works let's get a dozen more

765
00:37:10,620 --> 00:37:08,440
of those you know thankfully I was a

766
00:37:12,630 --> 00:37:10,630
part of you know paranormal stay which

767
00:37:15,270 --> 00:37:12,640
is I think most people would say that

768
00:37:17,270 --> 00:37:15,280
there are probably three really big ones

769
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:17,280
in the beginning which would be a

770
00:37:23,340 --> 00:37:20,170
parable seen in Joseph's pictures and

771
00:37:25,899 --> 00:37:23,350
ghost hunters right so yeah I was

772
00:37:29,499 --> 00:37:25,909
definitely a part of it

773
00:37:30,819 --> 00:37:29,509
now parent let's I want to go back to

774
00:37:33,339 --> 00:37:30,829
your childhood for a second because

775
00:37:36,729 --> 00:37:33,349
that's a very important part of what you

776
00:37:38,279 --> 00:37:36,739
are but I'll say this though Paranormal

777
00:37:41,349 --> 00:37:38,289
State

778
00:37:45,899 --> 00:37:41,359
freaked me out now the way that it was

779
00:37:49,019 --> 00:37:45,909
done it was correct in the setup and the

780
00:37:53,199 --> 00:37:49,029
paranormal side of it

781
00:37:55,389 --> 00:37:53,209
whose idea was it to have that kind of

782
00:37:56,949 --> 00:37:55,399
format because it was a different

783
00:37:59,349 --> 00:37:56,959
version of everything else that was out

784
00:38:02,079 --> 00:37:59,359
there well you know what's really weird

785
00:38:05,099 --> 00:38:02,089
is I didn't come in and tell season two

786
00:38:09,099 --> 00:38:05,109
so I was involved from season two until

787
00:38:12,269 --> 00:38:09,109
what they termed as season six so I I

788
00:38:14,919 --> 00:38:12,279
don't know who the creator of that

789
00:38:18,069 --> 00:38:14,929
documentary style was but what I did

790
00:38:20,889 --> 00:38:18,079
love about it and I had been approached

791
00:38:25,089 --> 00:38:20,899
by many different shows that were in the

792
00:38:27,969 --> 00:38:25,099
works or were ongoing and and I had

793
00:38:31,809 --> 00:38:27,979
turned at least two of them down before

794
00:38:33,849 --> 00:38:31,819
I got the offer to appear in peril say

795
00:38:36,069 --> 00:38:33,859
at that time I was actually believe it

796
00:38:38,499 --> 00:38:36,079
or not I was working with Steven

797
00:38:41,439 --> 00:38:38,509
Spielberg developing a paranormal online

798
00:38:43,209 --> 00:38:41,449
reality show which is pretty crazy when

799
00:38:46,419 --> 00:38:43,219
I was invited over to join paranormal

800
00:38:49,479 --> 00:38:46,429
stage the reason I agreed to do

801
00:38:52,419 --> 00:38:49,489
paranormal stain is because unlike the

802
00:38:55,089 --> 00:38:52,429
other shows that I saw out there it was

803
00:38:57,129 --> 00:38:55,099
it was more about the families and the

804
00:38:58,659 --> 00:38:57,139
afflicted in the haunted and less about

805
00:39:01,659 --> 00:38:58,669
the building right

806
00:39:06,099 --> 00:39:01,669
and and I you know coming from a family

807
00:39:09,609 --> 00:39:06,109
that had dealt with you know hauntings

808
00:39:11,649 --> 00:39:09,619
and individuals that were haunted that

809
00:39:12,159 --> 00:39:11,659
seemed like something I was so familiar

810
00:39:15,789 --> 00:39:12,169
with

811
00:39:18,939 --> 00:39:15,799
there it would just be something I could

812
00:39:19,589 --> 00:39:18,949
step into and not have any problems

813
00:39:23,799 --> 00:39:19,599
whatsoever

814
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:23,809
as far as uncomfortability just because

815
00:39:29,379 --> 00:39:25,729
I had lived in seen it and I truly did

816
00:39:32,289 --> 00:39:29,389
want to help if I could so but I'm not

817
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:32,299
sure who made the concepts but but I

818
00:39:36,309 --> 00:39:34,130
enjoyed the concept I enjoyed it a lot

819
00:39:38,199 --> 00:39:36,319
especially as a filmmaker now which I

820
00:39:39,630 --> 00:39:38,209
eventually directed the last two seasons

821
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:39,640
of that's right that's right

822
00:39:45,150 --> 00:39:41,890
that's right and again it also had a

823
00:39:47,820 --> 00:39:45,160
look and feel too as well that I thought

824
00:39:51,060 --> 00:39:47,830
separated it from everything else you

825
00:39:55,830 --> 00:39:51,070
know ghost hunters great show a cool

826
00:39:59,610 --> 00:39:55,840
format Ghost Adventures you know look

827
00:40:03,270 --> 00:39:59,620
Zack is Zack and he's created a he's

828
00:40:06,330 --> 00:40:03,280
created an empire and it I consider that

829
00:40:08,370 --> 00:40:06,340
more entertainment then I to anything

830
00:40:12,090 --> 00:40:08,380
else but it's light it's absolutely fun

831
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:12,100
to watch but let's let's talk about you

832
00:40:21,180 --> 00:40:17,410
growing up the every time I ask a guest

833
00:40:23,310 --> 00:40:21,190
that they always and I don't know why

834
00:40:25,740 --> 00:40:23,320
because it's my I have the same answer

835
00:40:28,110 --> 00:40:25,750
chat it's really funny where when I get

836
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:28,120
interviewed I will have the same answer

837
00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:29,770
that I get from everybody else they

838
00:40:35,250 --> 00:40:33,760
always reference their mom it doesn't

839
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:35,260
matter because it was honest and they

840
00:40:40,580 --> 00:40:37,330
never talk about their dad I don't know

841
00:40:43,980 --> 00:40:40,590
what not neither do I for me was my mom

842
00:40:48,020 --> 00:40:43,990
certainly she had a tremendous effect on

843
00:40:50,580 --> 00:40:48,030
you so tell us about that um well I

844
00:40:54,060 --> 00:40:50,590
might actually did start with my dad

845
00:40:57,240 --> 00:40:54,070
growing up you know I was in a family

846
00:40:59,400 --> 00:40:57,250
that was completely atheist not

847
00:41:04,620 --> 00:40:59,410
spiritual at all we would have never

848
00:41:06,090 --> 00:41:04,630
spoken about ghosts or angels or God or

849
00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:06,100
anything languages we just weren't that

850
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:08,710
my dad was a career Air Force man very

851
00:41:16,860 --> 00:41:14,650
scientific and he had got honorably

852
00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:16,870
discharged from service and began

853
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:19,510
working as an engineer of a concrete

854
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:21,970
company in which he was involved in a

855
00:41:28,850 --> 00:41:25,570
terrible explosion that burned 3/4 of

856
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:28,860
his body 77% his body third-degree and

857
00:41:34,740 --> 00:41:32,650
he was not supposed to live in fact the

858
00:41:36,590 --> 00:41:34,750
doctors this is well well chronicled in

859
00:41:39,540 --> 00:41:36,600
the American ghost hunter documentary

860
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:39,550
but the doctors had taken us twice to

861
00:41:44,180 --> 00:41:41,530
say our goodbyes to tell us that he was

862
00:41:48,690 --> 00:41:44,190
not going to live through the night and

863
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:48,700
my father kept living and doctors didn't

864
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:51,490
know why and he had claimed that it was

865
00:41:53,460 --> 00:41:53,170
the only place that his body wasn't

866
00:41:55,410 --> 00:41:53,470
burned

867
00:41:57,690 --> 00:41:55,420
was forehead and my mother would stand

868
00:41:59,910 --> 00:41:57,700
in the room and she would place her

869
00:42:01,670 --> 00:41:59,920
hands on his forehead and he claims that

870
00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:01,680
he could physically not emotionally

871
00:42:08,910 --> 00:42:06,250
physically feel you know this energy

872
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:08,920
being transferred from her to him that

873
00:42:13,770 --> 00:42:10,930
helped him you know not only cope with

874
00:42:18,420 --> 00:42:13,780
the pain but he said he could feel it

875
00:42:22,020 --> 00:42:18,430
healing him and he later you know gave

876
00:42:24,839 --> 00:42:22,030
the praise to to God and to what he

877
00:42:27,630 --> 00:42:24,849
deemed to be Jesus Christ as what saved

878
00:42:30,089 --> 00:42:27,640
him now I can't say that that made me

879
00:42:33,349 --> 00:42:30,099
believe in either but what I did believe

880
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:33,359
in is that he believed in something and

881
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:37,330
you know somehow he you know was living

882
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:40,330
when he shouldn't and that was my first

883
00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:42,970
kind of like huh you know maybe there is

884
00:42:48,390 --> 00:42:45,280
something else whatever that is I don't

885
00:42:52,109 --> 00:42:48,400
know how how were you at that at that

886
00:42:54,780 --> 00:42:52,119
time I was 10 years old that that'll

887
00:42:58,109 --> 00:42:54,790
have an effect on you sure yes I was

888
00:43:01,260 --> 00:42:58,119
very yeah I mean shocking especially

889
00:43:03,329 --> 00:43:01,270
because the same day crazy my mom had a

890
00:43:05,670 --> 00:43:03,339
bad day the same day that he got burned

891
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:05,680
it was life flighted I was playing

892
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:08,970
basketball two hours earlier at the

893
00:43:14,849 --> 00:43:12,130
elementary and I went up for a rebound

894
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:14,859
and came down and crushed my ankle so I

895
00:43:21,420 --> 00:43:17,530
was taken to the ER with a broken ankle

896
00:43:25,980 --> 00:43:21,430
and then I my my mother on her way to

897
00:43:27,359 --> 00:43:25,990
see me she had gotten this call that my

898
00:43:28,980 --> 00:43:27,369
father was life flighted so talk about

899
00:43:32,339 --> 00:43:28,990
having a bad day Wow

900
00:43:35,190 --> 00:43:32,349
yeah pretty amazing so but after my

901
00:43:36,990 --> 00:43:35,200
father recovered he had really thick

902
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:37,000
scar tissue and we lived in southern

903
00:43:41,700 --> 00:43:38,890
Texas at this time and with it being as

904
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:41,710
hot as it is he couldn't live in that

905
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:43,810
climate because scar tissue doesn't

906
00:43:48,630 --> 00:43:46,810
sweat so he would have a be it for high

907
00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:48,640
maybe a very high risk of having a

908
00:43:56,010 --> 00:43:52,240
heatstroke in that climate like that so

909
00:43:58,980 --> 00:43:56,020
he moved back to the Omaha Nebraska area

910
00:44:01,500 --> 00:43:58,990
that sort family was from which you know

911
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:01,510
that area of southwestern Iowa and

912
00:44:06,450 --> 00:44:04,450
eastern Nebraska pretty much nine months

913
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:06,460
of winter it's just a much cooler

914
00:44:11,250 --> 00:44:07,090
climate

915
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:11,260
the southern Texas so we moved back

916
00:44:18,030 --> 00:44:16,450
there and you know my parents and I

917
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:18,040
thought I was looking for a house kind

918
00:44:22,650 --> 00:44:19,330
of away from the hustle and bustle of

919
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:22,660
city and they came up you know across

920
00:44:29,670 --> 00:44:25,410
this old house that was a beautiful

921
00:44:30,950 --> 00:44:29,680
massive house three stories with a

922
00:44:33,750 --> 00:44:30,960
two-story garage

923
00:44:35,370 --> 00:44:33,760
and it was dirt cheap I mean they

924
00:44:38,100 --> 00:44:35,380
couldn't figure out why it was so cheap

925
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:38,110
because it was so beautiful and they got

926
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:39,490
there and the owner was very upfront

927
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:42,850
about the fact that he believed it to be

928
00:44:48,290 --> 00:44:46,570
haunted and the previous family sold it

929
00:44:51,570 --> 00:44:48,300
because they believed it to be haunted

930
00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:51,580
us not believing in that we didn't care

931
00:44:56,550 --> 00:44:54,160
we thought these people are crazy good

932
00:45:01,770 --> 00:44:56,560
deal you know right good deal whatever

933
00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:01,780
right and so you know to make a very

934
00:45:08,100 --> 00:45:05,440
long story short you know slowly but

935
00:45:13,110 --> 00:45:08,110
surely well first of all so about a year

936
00:45:15,060 --> 00:45:13,120
after we moved in my mom wanted to be a

937
00:45:18,750 --> 00:45:15,070
mother again and she wasn't physically

938
00:45:22,740 --> 00:45:18,760
able to have children so my parents

939
00:45:25,980 --> 00:45:22,750
adopted a little girl and my name is

940
00:45:27,690 --> 00:45:25,990
Katie and her name is Katie and so one

941
00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:27,700
night I was sleeping and it's 3:00 in

942
00:45:33,570 --> 00:45:30,730
the morning and I feel with someone

943
00:45:37,230 --> 00:45:33,580
pushing my door open and I'm like you

944
00:45:41,250 --> 00:45:37,240
know who is what is going on and it's my

945
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:41,260
little sister saying that a green hand a

946
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:44,050
green hand was coming out of the wall

947
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:47,890
and they was trying to tuck her in now

948
00:45:52,890 --> 00:45:50,050
wait right there right there let me top

949
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:52,900
you really quick how old was she and how

950
00:45:57,990 --> 00:45:56,170
old were you she was three at that time

951
00:46:02,400 --> 00:45:58,000
and at that time I was 12

952
00:46:05,430 --> 00:46:02,410
Man Man Man okay yeah right okay what

953
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:05,440
happened well keep that a green hand

954
00:46:09,090 --> 00:46:07,570
story in your mind we'll come back to

955
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:09,100
that later it's going to really kind of

956
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:11,290
freak you out but I'm not a problem to

957
00:46:17,540 --> 00:46:16,330
it well that was the first time anything

958
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:17,550
bizarre ever had

959
00:46:26,510 --> 00:46:21,050
and I'm looking at my adopted little

960
00:46:28,670 --> 00:46:26,520
half-mexican happy Indian sister and I

961
00:46:31,010 --> 00:46:28,680
know she's not lying to me but I'm

962
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:31,020
thinking she had a nightmare she spooked

963
00:46:37,340 --> 00:46:34,410
out whatever it may be so she goes back

964
00:46:40,910 --> 00:46:37,350
to bed as time goes on I had a very very

965
00:46:44,540 --> 00:46:40,920
very open family we could openly swear

966
00:46:46,250 --> 00:46:44,550
we can openly we just didn't

967
00:46:48,110 --> 00:46:46,260
my parents would talk about anything in

968
00:46:50,030 --> 00:46:48,120
front of us so we were urged to be open

969
00:46:52,310 --> 00:46:50,040
with them about any way we felt and talk

970
00:46:56,270 --> 00:46:52,320
about any subject so it would be very

971
00:46:58,310 --> 00:46:56,280
weird and out of place for my parents to

972
00:47:01,970 --> 00:46:58,320
leave the room to have a conversation

973
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:01,980
and I mean about anything I just started

974
00:47:05,630 --> 00:47:04,290
noticing over time that they would leave

975
00:47:09,050 --> 00:47:05,640
the room and I would hear them

976
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:09,060
whispering about things and and you know

977
00:47:12,530 --> 00:47:10,650
finally I confronted them and just said

978
00:47:14,330 --> 00:47:12,540
you know what is going on you know why

979
00:47:16,790 --> 00:47:14,340
are you guys you know leaving the room

980
00:47:19,340 --> 00:47:16,800
whispering and and they essentially said

981
00:47:20,930 --> 00:47:19,350
there there are strange things going on

982
00:47:23,990 --> 00:47:20,940
in this house

983
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:24,000
things are moving you know my dad said

984
00:47:29,330 --> 00:47:25,530
he had woken up to a black figure

985
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:29,340
hovering above him you know my mother

986
00:47:34,130 --> 00:47:31,290
had claimed that she was being

987
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:34,140
physically attacked that things were

988
00:47:38,450 --> 00:47:36,810
scratching her and you know pulling on

989
00:47:43,850 --> 00:47:38,460
her hair and that objects being thrown

990
00:47:47,810 --> 00:47:43,860
her and I had seen none of this not

991
00:47:49,970 --> 00:47:47,820
nothing so I honestly thought like are

992
00:47:52,340 --> 00:47:49,980
they both doing the same drugs like well

993
00:47:53,930 --> 00:47:52,350
you know what is going on here like how

994
00:47:55,700 --> 00:47:53,940
are they both going crazy at the same

995
00:47:58,400 --> 00:47:55,710
time because this is not happening I'm

996
00:48:00,950 --> 00:47:58,410
not seeing it happen my brother at that

997
00:48:02,810 --> 00:48:00,960
time had not seen anything happen yet in

998
00:48:05,090 --> 00:48:02,820
which eventually he had his own

999
00:48:08,380 --> 00:48:05,100
experiences on his own and he became a

1000
00:48:09,530 --> 00:48:08,390
believer so on bolon but I'm the lone

1001
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:09,540
non-believer

1002
00:48:14,750 --> 00:48:13,290
in the house and so you know the day

1003
00:48:17,630 --> 00:48:14,760
comes from my parents on a different

1004
00:48:19,250 --> 00:48:17,640
City and they are you're grocery

1005
00:48:22,580 --> 00:48:19,260
shopping and my brothers over to friends

1006
00:48:24,860 --> 00:48:22,590
house and I'm completely alone so being

1007
00:48:26,810 --> 00:48:24,870
frustrated by the fact that I'm the only

1008
00:48:29,090 --> 00:48:26,820
one that can't see the ghosts

1009
00:48:30,380 --> 00:48:29,100
you know I've walked around the entire

1010
00:48:33,170 --> 00:48:30,390
place

1011
00:48:36,350 --> 00:48:33,180
and I did everything I could to do what

1012
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:36,360
is now known as I was provoking to try

1013
00:48:39,710 --> 00:48:38,010
to see if something would happen you

1014
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:39,720
know basically just just screaming out

1015
00:48:44,150 --> 00:48:42,330
you know I don't believe in you you're

1016
00:48:46,340 --> 00:48:44,160
not real

1017
00:48:50,180 --> 00:48:46,350
I don't think you have the power to do

1018
00:48:52,670 --> 00:48:50,190
anything pretty much the worst yeah

1019
00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:52,680
thing you should be doing you have to do

1020
00:48:55,130 --> 00:48:53,040
Asia

1021
00:48:58,700 --> 00:48:55,140
yep how but I didn't know the kids I

1022
00:49:00,650 --> 00:48:58,710
didn't know I was just frustrated so you

1023
00:49:02,770 --> 00:49:00,660
know it's funny how whenever I tell a

1024
00:49:05,720 --> 00:49:02,780
story I always hate telling it because

1025
00:49:08,900 --> 00:49:05,730
you know let me precursor by saying it

1026
00:49:10,940 --> 00:49:08,910
that if I didn't experience it I I

1027
00:49:13,420 --> 00:49:10,950
couldn't believe it I couldn't wrap my

1028
00:49:15,770 --> 00:49:13,430
mind around what happened but

1029
00:49:19,100 --> 00:49:15,780
essentially that night I'm laying in my

1030
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:19,110
room laying in my bed my brother he was

1031
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:21,450
asleep I was pretty much the last one up

1032
00:49:27,590 --> 00:49:24,810
and right as I'm starting to fall asleep

1033
00:49:30,410 --> 00:49:27,600
it sounds like somebody and I know water

1034
00:49:33,140 --> 00:49:30,420
bed back in the day there's a big

1035
00:49:35,390 --> 00:49:33,150
headboard behind it there's a wall so

1036
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:35,400
right as I'm closing my eyes it sounds

1037
00:49:39,500 --> 00:49:36,930
like someone as hard as they could if

1038
00:49:41,180 --> 00:49:39,510
you took your fist and you punch the

1039
00:49:42,740 --> 00:49:41,190
wall as hard as you could so the point

1040
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:42,750
where it's rattling shaking everything

1041
00:49:49,430 --> 00:49:45,450
else on the wall I mean this massive

1042
00:49:51,260 --> 00:49:49,440
boom goes off above my head and which I

1043
00:49:54,890 --> 00:49:51,270
sit up you know like a lightning bolt

1044
00:49:55,700 --> 00:49:54,900
like what in the eff right at right you

1045
00:49:57,470 --> 00:49:55,710
know right

1046
00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:57,480
so I fire out of the room into my

1047
00:50:02,060 --> 00:49:59,040
brother's room and I'm like you did not

1048
00:50:03,830 --> 00:50:02,070
hear this and you know he's like no I

1049
00:50:06,950 --> 00:50:03,840
didn't hear anything I'm like there's no

1050
00:50:08,900 --> 00:50:06,960
way you couldn't have heard that and

1051
00:50:10,670 --> 00:50:08,910
he's like I did not hear anything and

1052
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:10,680
I'm like well scoot over I'm sleeping

1053
00:50:15,980 --> 00:50:13,530
next to you you know I happen to bed

1054
00:50:20,090 --> 00:50:15,990
next to him right as we're both dozing

1055
00:50:22,790 --> 00:50:20,100
off the punching sound against the wall

1056
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:22,800
now happens behind his headboard and

1057
00:50:27,710 --> 00:50:25,290
then it starts alternating on the walls

1058
00:50:31,330 --> 00:50:27,720
from wall to wall as if to show us that

1059
00:50:34,100 --> 00:50:31,340
it can move and do what it wants to do

1060
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:34,110
okay I tried to get to the door my

1061
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:36,690
brother is already blown by need to get

1062
00:50:41,940 --> 00:50:38,850
out of the door right so I'm trailing

1063
00:50:43,410 --> 00:50:41,950
him down the stairs and it was only one

1064
00:50:46,980 --> 00:50:43,420
ending of stairs but I would never

1065
00:50:48,540 --> 00:50:46,990
forget this feeling at that time the

1066
00:50:50,339 --> 00:50:48,550
beating started happening but

1067
00:50:52,790 --> 00:50:50,349
alternating on either side of the wall

1068
00:50:55,260 --> 00:50:52,800
back and forth and I remember how long

1069
00:50:59,540 --> 00:50:55,270
that landing of stairs

1070
00:51:03,060 --> 00:50:59,550
seemed at that time was seen by him

1071
00:51:07,410 --> 00:51:03,070
forever I just wanted out of there so

1072
00:51:09,150 --> 00:51:07,420
bad so I come around the corner the

1073
00:51:13,170 --> 00:51:09,160
bottom of stairs towards my parents room

1074
00:51:16,650 --> 00:51:13,180
and I hear my dad reading scripture and

1075
00:51:18,599 --> 00:51:16,660
I am just like what is going on here and

1076
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:18,609
hasn't been in closer and closer and

1077
00:51:25,109 --> 00:51:22,089
closer I can hear an inversion of my

1078
00:51:27,930 --> 00:51:25,119
mother's tone but basically she sounds

1079
00:51:29,819 --> 00:51:27,940
like somebody's in there crying and I'm

1080
00:51:33,180 --> 00:51:29,829
like what is going on so I come to the

1081
00:51:36,180 --> 00:51:33,190
door and my mother and her hair's

1082
00:51:38,609 --> 00:51:36,190
getting poles she's yelling from things

1083
00:51:40,770 --> 00:51:38,619
getting pinched and she has scratching

1084
00:51:43,319 --> 00:51:40,780
marks on her body and and I am in

1085
00:51:45,329 --> 00:51:43,329
complete and utter shock I mean I'm just

1086
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:45,339
like staring at like what what am i

1087
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:48,490
looking at what is going on like and at

1088
00:51:52,319 --> 00:51:50,650
that time you know I think I even said

1089
00:51:54,359 --> 00:51:52,329
something like mom and I was like

1090
00:51:56,849 --> 00:51:54,369
hollering okay they can look at me and

1091
00:51:58,650 --> 00:51:56,859
and she just sits up like a lightening

1092
00:52:01,500 --> 00:51:58,660
bolt just stiff as a board

1093
00:52:04,890 --> 00:52:01,510
and says I'm gonna get you boy and

1094
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:04,900
lunges with both her hands towards my

1095
00:52:11,910 --> 00:52:08,890
throat which was obviously traumatic for

1096
00:52:15,349 --> 00:52:11,920
me especially when I'm looking into her

1097
00:52:19,970 --> 00:52:15,359
eyes and it's my it is my mother's face

1098
00:52:23,790 --> 00:52:19,980
like as far as the contours of it but it

1099
00:52:25,980 --> 00:52:23,800
clearly was not and so my goodness the

1100
00:52:28,950 --> 00:52:25,990
way I can describe it clearly wasn't her

1101
00:52:33,390 --> 00:52:28,960
and I was terrified

1102
00:52:35,099 --> 00:52:33,400
I talked back to actually made some bear

1103
00:52:37,050 --> 00:52:35,109
seem to say this how about I talk back

1104
00:52:38,849 --> 00:52:37,060
to puncher because I was just so

1105
00:52:41,130 --> 00:52:38,859
terrified at the time I didn't know and

1106
00:52:43,079 --> 00:52:41,140
this thing that looked like my mom but

1107
00:52:44,130 --> 00:52:43,089
wasn't my mom was telling me I'm gonna

1108
00:52:47,970 --> 00:52:44,140
get you boy

1109
00:52:50,460 --> 00:52:47,980
and I felt threatened and my brother at

1110
00:52:53,290 --> 00:52:50,470
that time grabbed me and drugged me from

1111
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:53,300
their room into the adjacent living room

1112
00:52:58,270 --> 00:52:56,090
and which my father can't bring the

1113
00:53:00,520 --> 00:52:58,280
scripture in kept yelling beyond me also

1114
00:53:02,170 --> 00:53:00,530
saying Chad don't give into the you know

1115
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:02,180
don't give into it you can't you know

1116
00:53:07,050 --> 00:53:04,370
hate your mother and it's madness like

1117
00:53:10,180 --> 00:53:07,060
going on at that time and then suddenly

1118
00:53:12,790 --> 00:53:10,190
my mother comes out of whatever she was

1119
00:53:15,730 --> 00:53:12,800
in and she's not very aware of what's

1120
00:53:18,130 --> 00:53:15,740
happening in the room and she sees me

1121
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:18,140
upset so she runs over me my father runs

1122
00:53:22,060 --> 00:53:20,810
over to me he's got his arms kind of

1123
00:53:23,650 --> 00:53:22,070
round all of us we're huddling in the

1124
00:53:26,260 --> 00:53:23,660
middle of this living room and the

1125
00:53:29,590 --> 00:53:26,270
freaking beating starts again on all

1126
00:53:31,660 --> 00:53:29,600
four the walls beside us in which my

1127
00:53:33,430 --> 00:53:31,670
father wraps his arm around her I read

1128
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:33,440
wraps his arms around all of us and he

1129
00:53:37,210 --> 00:53:35,330
just keeps saying the Lord's Prayer over

1130
00:53:38,860 --> 00:53:37,220
and over and over again which meant

1131
00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:38,870
nothing to me at that time because I

1132
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:43,040
wasn't a Christian at all but it meant a

1133
00:53:48,310 --> 00:53:45,650
lot to my dad he believed in that a lot

1134
00:53:52,450 --> 00:53:48,320
and he had faith in it and and just as

1135
00:53:55,750 --> 00:53:52,460
soon as it all started stopped that's

1136
00:53:57,700 --> 00:53:55,760
one of the crazy I'm trying to wrap my

1137
00:53:59,470 --> 00:53:57,710
head around this Chad all of this

1138
00:54:02,320 --> 00:53:59,480
happened at the same time the pounding

1139
00:54:04,510 --> 00:54:02,330
upstairs you go you leave your room you

1140
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:04,520
go to your brother's room it continues

1141
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:06,770
in there you guys freak out you make a

1142
00:54:12,130 --> 00:54:09,290
beeline for the door you get down the

1143
00:54:14,140 --> 00:54:12,140
stairs your mamma's is losing her mind

1144
00:54:17,950 --> 00:54:14,150
and his physical things going out with

1145
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:17,960
her dad is reading a Bible of all things

1146
00:54:22,270 --> 00:54:20,450
and he's like disconnected reading Bible

1147
00:54:24,190 --> 00:54:22,280
verses well eight if he doesn't know

1148
00:54:26,050 --> 00:54:24,200
what to do right he has no clue what to

1149
00:54:28,270 --> 00:54:26,060
do he's not a really a spiritual man

1150
00:54:29,890 --> 00:54:28,280
he's just learning his exploring his

1151
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:29,900
spirituality because he lived through

1152
00:54:34,510 --> 00:54:32,930
something he shouldn't have and and the

1153
00:54:39,100 --> 00:54:34,520
weirdest thing was the whole thing

1154
00:54:41,530 --> 00:54:39,110
probably took for five minutes maybe

1155
00:54:43,510 --> 00:54:41,540
less than that tomorrow there's a

1156
00:54:45,220 --> 00:54:43,520
there's a car going by one single siren

1157
00:54:47,290 --> 00:54:45,230
going by that's okay that's okay that's

1158
00:54:49,660 --> 00:54:47,300
Southern California everybody that's

1159
00:54:52,720 --> 00:54:49,670
what it is welcome to Los Angeles

1160
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:52,730
welcome to LA so did your mom chat we've

1161
00:54:57,220 --> 00:54:54,770
got two and a half minutes before the

1162
00:54:59,350 --> 00:54:57,230
break did her mom remember anything as

1163
00:55:01,870 --> 00:54:59,360
soon as it stopped did she do not

1164
00:55:02,789 --> 00:55:01,880
remember lunging at me she remembered

1165
00:55:05,189 --> 00:55:02,799
saying

1166
00:55:06,989 --> 00:55:05,199
thing no she did not remember any of

1167
00:55:09,359 --> 00:55:06,999
that time period she said when she woke

1168
00:55:13,469 --> 00:55:09,369
up it was a doe she woke up from sleep

1169
00:55:16,769 --> 00:55:13,479
and saw this madness going on let's see

1170
00:55:19,709 --> 00:55:16,779
you I Jimmy that morning I would this is

1171
00:55:23,519 --> 00:55:19,719
about 3:00 a.m. and this all stopped and

1172
00:55:25,919 --> 00:55:23,529
I had that morning I went to school

1173
00:55:28,529 --> 00:55:25,929
early lifted weights my weightlifting

1174
00:55:30,989 --> 00:55:28,539
and other stuff and and I never sitting

1175
00:55:32,069 --> 00:55:30,999
in my breakfast man just staring at my

1176
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:32,079
cocoa puffs

1177
00:55:38,429 --> 00:55:35,170
and just it was the loneliest bowl of

1178
00:55:40,370 --> 00:55:38,439
cereal ever had and my my good friend is

1179
00:55:43,829 --> 00:55:40,380
like Chad and I like look up he's like

1180
00:55:45,630 --> 00:55:43,839
dude where are you right now and I was

1181
00:55:48,689 --> 00:55:45,640
just staring I hadn't eaten anything and

1182
00:55:51,599 --> 00:55:48,699
and what I remember it was just what do

1183
00:55:53,609 --> 00:55:51,609
you say like what do you say after you

1184
00:55:57,359 --> 00:55:53,619
witness something like that I was trying

1185
00:55:59,789 --> 00:55:57,369
to determine if I was crazy was it real

1186
00:56:03,089 --> 00:55:59,799
is it possible that it was a nightmare I

1187
00:56:06,299 --> 00:56:03,099
mean knowing that it wasn't and how do

1188
00:56:06,870 --> 00:56:06,309
you explain this to somebody who wasn't

1189
00:56:11,099 --> 00:56:06,880
there

1190
00:56:15,439 --> 00:56:11,109
what did your dad say he was terrified

1191
00:56:21,150 --> 00:56:15,449
he was pissed he was angry he was scared

1192
00:56:25,289 --> 00:56:21,160
you know he believed that it had anybody

1193
00:56:31,380 --> 00:56:25,299
that had something to do with him and

1194
00:56:34,319 --> 00:56:31,390
his you know newfound acceptance of of

1195
00:56:36,870 --> 00:56:34,329
Christ and that he perhaps cheated death

1196
00:56:38,759 --> 00:56:36,880
and he didn't know you know I mean like

1197
00:56:40,199 --> 00:56:38,769
he was just looking for answers okay and

1198
00:56:42,929 --> 00:56:40,209
that might sound weird for someone on

1199
00:56:45,179 --> 00:56:42,939
the outside to hear that but when you go

1200
00:56:47,189 --> 00:56:45,189
through something like that you're

1201
00:56:48,329 --> 00:56:47,199
reaching for straws you know you don't

1202
00:56:50,609 --> 00:56:48,339
know you don't know what anything

1203
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:50,619
anything can cause that you don't even

1204
00:56:56,519 --> 00:56:53,249
know what you just experienced you know

1205
00:56:58,229 --> 00:56:56,529
it sounds like at this point - you guys

1206
00:57:01,049 --> 00:56:58,239
were probably thinking you paid too much

1207
00:57:02,849 --> 00:57:01,059
for the house no we definitely wanted

1208
00:57:06,059 --> 00:57:02,859
out of the house and they tried to sell

1209
00:57:08,939 --> 00:57:06,069
the house for a long time and a couple

1210
00:57:11,699 --> 00:57:08,949
visitors at which both of them upon

1211
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:11,709
entering the house immediately had

1212
00:57:16,349 --> 00:57:15,249
things thrown one a person I believe

1213
00:57:19,049 --> 00:57:16,359
said they saw

1214
00:57:19,979 --> 00:57:19,059
a black figure moving from one room to

1215
00:57:23,700 --> 00:57:19,989
the other and they were out the door

1216
00:57:26,059 --> 00:57:23,710
question I want to buy it you know then

1217
00:57:28,650 --> 00:57:26,069
though in a small town uh then the word

1218
00:57:30,180 --> 00:57:28,660
spreads regionally and something weird

1219
00:57:31,410 --> 00:57:30,190
is going on they they couldn't sell the

1220
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:31,420
home they tried they tried everything

1221
00:57:35,789 --> 00:57:34,450
they could yes and these days we got to

1222
00:57:37,410 --> 00:57:35,799
take a break right here these days you

1223
00:57:41,069 --> 00:57:37,420
could actually sell the house now for a

1224
00:57:43,410 --> 00:57:41,079
premium right now no kiddin our guest

1225
00:57:44,910 --> 00:57:43,420
tonight Chad Caleb this is fade to black

1226
00:57:48,299 --> 00:57:44,920
were going to be talking about his new

1227
00:57:51,239 --> 00:57:48,309
documentary sir no face go to sir no

1228
00:57:53,370 --> 00:57:51,249
face comm check out the trailer and his

1229
00:57:55,079 --> 00:57:53,380
tour dates are posted we'll talk about

1230
00:57:58,260 --> 00:57:55,089
all of that with Chad right after this

1231
00:58:16,410 --> 00:57:58,270
short break stay with us

1232
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:18,280
this is fade to black

1233
00:58:24,099 --> 00:58:20,450
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1240
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1241
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[Music]

1302
01:01:51,710 --> 01:01:49,230
welcome back fade to black I'm hosting a

1303
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church follow me on Twitter at JDO you

1304
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can follow Chad at agh Chad Gaelic he is

1305
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been investigating Chad has been

1306
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investigating for 25 years and he is the

1307
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director of a new documentary called sir

1308
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no face we're going to get to that in a

1309
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second but I've got to finish this is

1310
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:14,760
this experience up in Nebraska now how

1311
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:16,770
long did you guys actually live in the

1312
01:02:25,010 --> 01:02:21,810
house for I was actually a I was 12 when

1313
01:02:27,050 --> 01:02:25,020
I moved in and it was just before my

1314
01:02:29,390 --> 01:02:27,060
12th birthday and I went to college I

1315
01:02:31,850 --> 01:02:29,400
was when I was 18 so out of there for

1316
01:02:35,930 --> 01:02:31,860
six years and my parents lived there for

1317
01:02:41,270 --> 01:02:35,940
another five so they did 11 in that

1318
01:02:44,330 --> 01:02:41,280
house and I went from college off to Los

1319
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:44,340
Angeles where I've been ever since did

1320
01:02:50,420 --> 01:02:47,970
did the events of that night that you've

1321
01:02:54,260 --> 01:02:50,430
just told us about did they continue

1322
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:54,270
with that kind of intensity oh yeah oh

1323
01:02:57,740 --> 01:02:55,410
definitely

1324
01:02:59,870 --> 01:02:57,750
that was the start of it all that was

1325
01:03:02,570 --> 01:02:59,880
the first night I had ever experienced

1326
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:02,580
anything so I went from experiencing

1327
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:06,570
nothing to that yeah it was you know

1328
01:03:13,780 --> 01:03:10,650
right like just fulfilled I mean you

1329
01:03:18,980 --> 01:03:13,790
know it was a profound life-changing

1330
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:18,990
event that you know set me on a path for

1331
01:03:25,370 --> 01:03:21,810
sure you know I always say that I never

1332
01:03:29,030 --> 01:03:25,380
chose to be involved in the paranormal I

1333
01:03:32,270 --> 01:03:29,040
very much feel like it chose me it was

1334
01:03:36,410 --> 01:03:32,280
not I can't stress enough how much that

1335
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:36,420
that wasn't a part of our world anything

1336
01:03:40,190 --> 01:03:38,730
spiritual or you know

1337
01:03:43,190 --> 01:03:40,200
paranoid or anything like that just

1338
01:03:45,290 --> 01:03:43,200
wasn't a part of our world and after

1339
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:45,300
something like that happens to you and

1340
01:03:52,550 --> 01:03:48,450
again I realized how insane this story

1341
01:03:56,330 --> 01:03:52,560
sounds but I lived it that just happened

1342
01:03:58,440 --> 01:03:56,340
and I can't undo that it happened who

1343
01:04:03,240 --> 01:03:58,450
lives in my house nation

1344
01:04:05,970 --> 01:04:03,250
it is an old friend of my brothers had

1345
01:04:10,349 --> 01:04:05,980
that he went to school with her and she

1346
01:04:12,690 --> 01:04:10,359
now lives in the home and you know

1347
01:04:18,539 --> 01:04:12,700
nothing has happened to her in the home

1348
01:04:23,339 --> 01:04:18,549
but as we learn and discover in American

1349
01:04:27,270 --> 01:04:23,349
ghost hunter the primary issue that was

1350
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:27,280
going on is whatever was their second

1351
01:04:35,220 --> 01:04:29,410
and attached itself to my mother and

1352
01:04:38,460 --> 01:04:35,230
when my parents moved I they told me for

1353
01:04:40,890 --> 01:04:38,470
you know a long period of time on like

1354
01:04:45,329 --> 01:04:40,900
nine years they told me that everything

1355
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:45,339
had stopped once they moved so when I

1356
01:04:50,299 --> 01:04:46,930
initially went back to fall American

1357
01:04:54,270 --> 01:04:50,309
ghost hunter that was just to

1358
01:04:57,779 --> 01:04:54,280
essentially try to retell the story of

1359
01:05:00,359 --> 01:04:57,789
my childhood having no idea that it was

1360
01:05:03,269 --> 01:05:00,369
still going on right us in a different

1361
01:05:06,569 --> 01:05:03,279
place yeah I remember in the documentary

1362
01:05:08,940 --> 01:05:06,579
or in America ghost hunter help me out

1363
01:05:11,370 --> 01:05:08,950
here my memory the first time I saw

1364
01:05:13,740 --> 01:05:11,380
there was the history of the house

1365
01:05:15,930 --> 01:05:13,750
before that you bring out in in the

1366
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:15,940
documentary who they'll say yeah who

1367
01:05:22,140 --> 01:05:18,250
built the house and it's a problem okay

1368
01:05:24,569 --> 01:05:22,150
well yeah it was a oh my gosh

1369
01:05:28,049 --> 01:05:24,579
Alfred I got even her bow first the

1370
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:28,059
house is 102 years old and it was built

1371
01:05:36,420 --> 01:05:31,450
by a gentleman yeah I got it built the

1372
01:05:42,289 --> 01:05:36,430
house and he died in the house his wife

1373
01:05:46,019 --> 01:05:42,299
and baby also died baby died of SIDS and

1374
01:05:50,910 --> 01:05:46,029
the wife died too a complication during

1375
01:05:53,039 --> 01:05:50,920
a stillborn childbirth later so the word

1376
01:05:54,599 --> 01:05:53,049
confirmed deaths in the house but I

1377
01:05:56,670 --> 01:05:54,609
don't believe that anything to do with

1378
01:05:58,349 --> 01:05:56,680
the haunting ultimately there could've

1379
01:06:01,109 --> 01:05:58,359
been spirit there from that but the

1380
01:06:02,819 --> 01:06:01,119
entire region suffers from negative

1381
01:06:04,460 --> 01:06:02,829
hauntings which I believe it has a lot

1382
01:06:06,539 --> 01:06:04,470
to do with the fact that it's all

1383
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:06,549
Potawatomi Indian burial ground which is

1384
01:06:11,820 --> 01:06:08,890
specifically known for shallow graves

1385
01:06:14,010 --> 01:06:11,830
right and and the Potawatomi River

1386
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:14,020
much like the Tibetan monks where they

1387
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:15,490
wouldn't fight but they wouldn't conform

1388
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:17,650
so they would just allow themselves to

1389
01:06:21,630 --> 01:06:19,090
be slaughtered

1390
01:06:24,090 --> 01:06:21,640
with the belief that they're one of the

1391
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:24,100
Dead two gods that they believe in and

1392
01:06:27,510 --> 01:06:25,690
one was very much like our Christian God

1393
01:06:29,370 --> 01:06:27,520
the other one would have been like our

1394
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:29,380
same but they actually prayed and

1395
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:30,970
revered him because he would carry out

1396
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:33,850
their vengeance and as we've kind of

1397
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:37,690
learned from past cases it isn't

1398
01:06:42,780 --> 01:06:40,090
necessarily you don't necessarily have

1399
01:06:46,830 --> 01:06:42,790
to believe in something for it to be

1400
01:06:48,630 --> 01:06:46,840
real if it believes in you and I think

1401
01:06:52,590 --> 01:06:48,640
that there's a lot of unate owned

1402
01:06:55,620 --> 01:06:52,600
tragedy in the area and for those people

1403
01:07:00,150 --> 01:06:55,630
who also suffer and in its own tragedy

1404
01:07:02,790 --> 01:07:00,160
and have kind of a rip and a way in you

1405
01:07:05,130 --> 01:07:02,800
know what's more evil than attaching to

1406
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:05,140
the weak in the wounded for darkness to

1407
01:07:11,340 --> 01:07:06,850
do that and I think that's kind of what

1408
01:07:14,420 --> 01:07:11,350
happened with my mother is she did the

1409
01:07:18,690 --> 01:07:14,430
wrong thing for the right reason and and

1410
01:07:23,250 --> 01:07:18,700
you know we suffered greatly for it now

1411
01:07:27,290 --> 01:07:23,260
the besides your own home you've been in

1412
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:27,300
a lot of other you know haunted places

1413
01:07:39,030 --> 01:07:33,090
sure what else is terrified you um

1414
01:07:44,430 --> 01:07:39,040
- another funny yeah activity doesn't

1415
01:07:46,590 --> 01:07:44,440
really terrify me as much as when I see

1416
01:07:52,350 --> 01:07:46,600
changes in people well I could say one

1417
01:07:55,710 --> 01:07:52,360
there was a case I was on where the

1418
01:08:00,030 --> 01:07:55,720
mother of my daughter it was a demonic

1419
01:08:01,890 --> 01:08:00,040
case and she had she wasn't supposed to

1420
01:08:04,710 --> 01:08:01,900
be there she actually just drove there

1421
01:08:07,380 --> 01:08:04,720
to to hang out and help out the

1422
01:08:10,500 --> 01:08:07,390
investigation but she came into the

1423
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:10,510
house I'm blessed and unofficially

1424
01:08:15,020 --> 01:08:14,050
welcomed and I did film an upside down

1425
01:08:18,480 --> 01:08:15,030
cross

1426
01:08:19,980 --> 01:08:18,490
burn into her leg now again that didn't

1427
01:08:22,999 --> 01:08:19,990
mean really anything to me and what a

1428
01:08:25,789 --> 01:08:23,009
Catholic thing but the family was

1429
01:08:30,229 --> 01:08:25,799
and the family found it to be terrifying

1430
01:08:33,860 --> 01:08:30,239
and that was pretty terrifying watching

1431
01:08:35,630 --> 01:08:33,870
a burn literally rise up off of

1432
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:35,640
somebody's skin in front of your eyes

1433
01:08:42,410 --> 01:08:40,170
that was about him that was that was

1434
01:08:44,420 --> 01:08:42,420
unnerving that was pretty scary and

1435
01:08:46,970 --> 01:08:44,430
you've also you know your thing is

1436
01:08:51,410 --> 01:08:46,980
trying to figure figure out in debunk

1437
01:08:54,440 --> 01:08:51,420
and hear not only videos but but cases

1438
01:08:56,660 --> 01:08:54,450
too as well yeah well we were one of the

1439
01:09:00,760 --> 01:08:56,670
first people to figure out that the

1440
01:09:03,650 --> 01:09:00,770
longest time Waverly Hills was

1441
01:09:07,010 --> 01:09:03,660
advertising that you know 60,000 people

1442
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:07,020
had died in Waverly Hills and after

1443
01:09:13,550 --> 01:09:09,330
researching it I figured out that that

1444
01:09:17,780 --> 01:09:13,560
is an absolute impossibility finishing

1445
01:09:19,220 --> 01:09:17,790
that's a statewide estimate and many

1446
01:09:23,090 --> 01:09:19,230
people of state did in fact go to

1447
01:09:24,979 --> 01:09:23,100
Waverly Hills but they could not have

1448
01:09:26,900 --> 01:09:24,989
had 60,000 people died in there at a

1449
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:26,910
time for them to be open we're talking

1450
01:09:32,630 --> 01:09:29,850
about a death every three seconds which

1451
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:32,640
wasn't the case but most notoriously the

1452
01:09:41,990 --> 01:09:35,970
one that we debunked is supposedly there

1453
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:42,000
is a nurse who has hung in a room on the

1454
01:09:48,079 --> 01:09:44,489
fourth or the fifth floor fourth floor

1455
01:09:50,539 --> 01:09:48,089
of the old sanatorium and we figured out

1456
01:09:54,140 --> 01:09:50,549
that that couldn't have been true

1457
01:09:57,979 --> 01:09:54,150
because the the supposed bedroom that

1458
01:09:59,510 --> 01:09:57,989
she was hung in was not a bedroom nor

1459
01:10:02,600 --> 01:09:59,520
was there any record of her working

1460
01:10:05,780 --> 01:10:02,610
there but it was actually it was a

1461
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:05,790
closet what they say was a bedroom and

1462
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:08,610
it wasn't what you figured that out I'm

1463
01:10:12,830 --> 01:10:10,410
lost I don't see that she was never

1464
01:10:16,340 --> 01:10:12,840
employed there so you know we do a lot

1465
01:10:19,130 --> 01:10:16,350
of history and research on places that

1466
01:10:21,440 --> 01:10:19,140
we go to to make sure that we know if

1467
01:10:24,650 --> 01:10:21,450
it's even possible

1468
01:10:26,350 --> 01:10:24,660
you know if the legend is even possible

1469
01:10:29,180 --> 01:10:26,360
that it could be true

1470
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:29,190
you know why spend your time hunting

1471
01:10:33,979 --> 01:10:31,650
something unless you know it's it's as a

1472
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:33,989
potential to be real well way of really

1473
01:10:38,390 --> 01:10:35,610
do that research

1474
01:10:41,149 --> 01:10:38,400
really no matter what uh looks

1475
01:10:43,010 --> 01:10:41,159
absolutely creepy and haunted and I will

1476
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:43,020
and it surely is haunted right that

1477
01:10:47,810 --> 01:10:45,210
question I mean I was really insulted I

1478
01:10:51,379 --> 01:10:47,820
would never spend the night there ever I

1479
01:10:53,359 --> 01:10:51,389
would not even with you I never and I've

1480
01:10:55,310 --> 01:10:53,369
spent an exorbitant amount of time there

1481
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:55,320
and it is haunted but it's one of those

1482
01:11:01,520 --> 01:10:57,530
places because it's so visually stunning

1483
01:11:03,620 --> 01:11:01,530
that The Legend and lore just grows out

1484
01:11:05,419 --> 01:11:03,630
of control right and you got to kind of

1485
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:05,429
get back to what is the truth about the

1486
01:11:11,660 --> 01:11:08,250
place have you ever been to what's the

1487
01:11:13,580 --> 01:11:11,670
hospital here in la loma linda what's

1488
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:13,590
haunted hospital here on Linda Vista

1489
01:11:18,260 --> 01:11:16,170
Linda Vista have you ever been there yes

1490
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:18,270
sir I have and actually in two different

1491
01:11:24,770 --> 01:11:21,210
incarnations of it I've been there when

1492
01:11:27,970 --> 01:11:24,780
it was when they were turning it into

1493
01:11:31,939 --> 01:11:27,980
apartments right during that kind of

1494
01:11:33,830 --> 01:11:31,949
stage and years ago I went there when it

1495
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:33,840
was still kind of a broken-down hospital

1496
01:11:40,300 --> 01:11:37,650
and yeah both times I didn't capture

1497
01:11:43,879 --> 01:11:40,310
anything on a film that was overtly

1498
01:11:46,459 --> 01:11:43,889
crazy but there was definitely weird

1499
01:11:48,020 --> 01:11:46,469
stuff going on there was definitely when

1500
01:11:50,570 --> 01:11:48,030
we were there specifically we kept

1501
01:11:53,090 --> 01:11:50,580
hearing the same voice that seemed to be

1502
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:53,100
calling calling to us and kind of like a

1503
01:11:58,399 --> 01:11:56,610
whisper yell from different areas of the

1504
01:12:01,100 --> 01:11:58,409
place to the degree that we thought

1505
01:12:02,770 --> 01:12:01,110
someone was truly in there if someone

1506
01:12:05,060 --> 01:12:02,780
had broken and they're messing with us

1507
01:12:08,990 --> 01:12:05,070
whether determined that wasn't the case

1508
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:09,000
but yeah that place has many many many

1509
01:12:13,580 --> 01:12:12,690
tales specifically of people that had

1510
01:12:16,879 --> 01:12:13,590
nothing to do with the present

1511
01:12:21,530 --> 01:12:16,889
opportunity and just rented the you know

1512
01:12:23,930 --> 01:12:21,540
the rooms out then the hospital turn it

1513
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:23,940
into apartments so people move in and

1514
01:12:29,899 --> 01:12:28,170
just have the most crazy intense you

1515
01:12:32,359 --> 01:12:29,909
know experiences there and they wonder

1516
01:12:35,060 --> 01:12:32,369
why well you know you turn in a you know

1517
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:35,070
a terrible old mental asylum in two

1518
01:12:38,990 --> 01:12:36,690
apartments because it's going to happen

1519
01:12:41,629 --> 01:12:39,000
yeah right right I mean it just looks

1520
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:41,639
creepy too as well especially I had the

1521
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:44,730
the first version of it now when it

1522
01:12:49,020 --> 01:12:48,210
comes to I want to jump to cirno pace

1523
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:49,030
because we've got

1524
01:12:55,710 --> 01:12:54,130
so much to talk about this I don't even

1525
01:13:00,450 --> 01:12:55,720
know where to start so maybe we should

1526
01:13:02,820 --> 01:13:00,460
actually start in Australia you're in

1527
01:13:06,510 --> 01:13:02,830
Australia you're doing your thing

1528
01:13:08,970 --> 01:13:06,520
and you hook up with Craig so let's kind

1529
01:13:13,500 --> 01:13:08,980
of start there how did how did you guys

1530
01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:13,510
meet yeah so I was in Australia and I

1531
01:13:19,770 --> 01:13:15,760
was on tour with a documentary of mine

1532
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:19,780
called a blood red sky which which I'm

1533
01:13:25,470 --> 01:13:21,250
going to make a big announcement about

1534
01:13:29,490 --> 01:13:25,480
on coast to coast okay um and so I'm

1535
01:13:32,100 --> 01:13:29,500
over there and Craig buys a VIP ticket

1536
01:13:36,540 --> 01:13:32,110
that's how I meet him really cool dude

1537
01:13:38,730 --> 01:13:36,550
they're you know just nice as can be not

1538
01:13:40,380 --> 01:13:38,740
you know really push you anything just

1539
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:40,390
just you know happy to have a

1540
01:13:45,150 --> 01:13:42,730
conversation happy to take a picture

1541
01:13:48,930 --> 01:13:45,160
that says I really like the guy liked

1542
01:13:51,780 --> 01:13:48,940
his team we just um just stayed in

1543
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:51,790
contact I think I found him actually on

1544
01:13:56,220 --> 01:13:53,650
Facebook and went back to space today it

1545
01:13:58,440 --> 01:13:56,230
was nice meeting you a lot of our fans

1546
01:14:00,090 --> 01:13:58,450
over there and said we didn't do a ghost

1547
01:14:01,620 --> 01:14:00,100
ton on that tour and they said you know

1548
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:01,630
we would love to do a ghost time with

1549
01:14:06,750 --> 01:14:04,570
you so about a year later I contact

1550
01:14:09,660 --> 01:14:06,760
Craig and say I would love to come to a

1551
01:14:11,910 --> 01:14:09,670
ghost hunt do you have a place he says I

1552
01:14:14,310 --> 01:14:11,920
do it's this place called Cockatoo

1553
01:14:16,260 --> 01:14:14,320
Island which I looked at it looks

1554
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:16,270
incredible I never really think to even

1555
01:14:20,580 --> 01:14:19,090
ask him you know how he has access to it

1556
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:20,590
I just figured you know this freezes

1557
01:14:26,250 --> 01:14:22,330
from Western Sydney must know the right

1558
01:14:28,590 --> 01:14:26,260
people it is what it is so while we're

1559
01:14:31,380 --> 01:14:28,600
over doing our event during our evidence

1560
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:31,390
presentation as kind of a thank you for

1561
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:33,730
you know helping us set up this go son I

1562
01:14:39,540 --> 01:14:36,130
tell him for the attendees are there

1563
01:14:41,730 --> 01:14:39,550
that his team can also be featured and

1564
01:14:44,910 --> 01:14:41,740
you know given evidence presentation of

1565
01:14:49,980 --> 01:14:44,920
their evidence which they've captured at

1566
01:14:52,740 --> 01:14:49,990
cockatoo and you know Craig accreta I

1567
01:14:54,740 --> 01:14:52,750
just got done showing my evidence and

1568
01:15:00,980 --> 01:14:54,750
I'm kind of talking to my partner and

1569
01:15:02,970 --> 01:15:00,990
Craig proceeds to show a series of clips

1570
01:15:06,510 --> 01:15:02,980
in which each

1571
01:15:10,170 --> 01:15:06,520
one is becoming more and more incredible

1572
01:15:12,330 --> 01:15:10,180
and to the point one I'm going got that

1573
01:15:13,740 --> 01:15:12,340
is amazing like how did this happen like

1574
01:15:15,750 --> 01:15:13,750
one of the clips I'll you've seen it

1575
01:15:19,440 --> 01:15:15,760
gets further expound upon the trailer in

1576
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:19,450
which they are in this room and there is

1577
01:15:27,540 --> 01:15:23,650
the the ghost of Sir that on call when

1578
01:15:30,330 --> 01:15:27,550
you ask for it on call it can light up

1579
01:15:33,330 --> 01:15:30,340
the entire inside what they call sirs

1580
01:15:34,890 --> 01:15:33,340
house and when I say light it up I mean

1581
01:15:37,260 --> 01:15:34,900
if you do what you watch the footage

1582
01:15:40,710 --> 01:15:37,270
you'll see there are no shadows anywhere

1583
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:40,720
this light is emanating from everywhere

1584
01:15:47,340 --> 01:15:43,330
it could do an on call and here's the

1585
01:15:49,590 --> 01:15:47,350
thing the house has no electricity and

1586
01:15:53,130 --> 01:15:49,600
at the same time from the outside of the

1587
01:15:54,750 --> 01:15:53,140
house you can't see the light so those

1588
01:15:56,790 --> 01:15:54,760
who are standing outside have no idea

1589
01:16:00,840 --> 01:15:56,800
lights going off on the inside which

1590
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:00,850
they're filming and going off not only

1591
01:16:07,530 --> 01:16:05,050
does this occur Craig goes and grabs and

1592
01:16:10,020 --> 01:16:07,540
his team they go and grab complete

1593
01:16:13,350 --> 01:16:10,030
strangers that are skeptics off the

1594
01:16:16,290 --> 01:16:13,360
street to come experience this right up

1595
01:16:18,780 --> 01:16:16,300
to government official personnel that

1596
01:16:21,630 --> 01:16:18,790
they bring out to experience this for a

1597
01:16:24,300 --> 01:16:21,640
firsthand for themselves and was to the

1598
01:16:26,790 --> 01:16:24,310
recount 'less witnesses to this there's

1599
01:16:28,650 --> 01:16:26,800
ghosts that on call could just poof like

1600
01:16:31,860 --> 01:16:28,660
a lightning bolt and off to light things

1601
01:16:34,620 --> 01:16:31,870
up and that's just one piece of footage

1602
01:16:38,550 --> 01:16:34,630
that shows me and it gets to a series of

1603
01:16:42,510 --> 01:16:38,560
them and the final one and he tells me

1604
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:42,520
is you know we captured the full-body

1605
01:16:47,850 --> 01:16:45,489
apparition that you're going to see come

1606
01:16:50,430 --> 01:16:47,860
out of the wall and turn and look you

1607
01:16:52,050 --> 01:16:50,440
know directly into the camera and I'm

1608
01:16:54,180 --> 01:16:52,060
like King okay

1609
01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:54,190
sure you know what I mean that type of

1610
01:17:00,360 --> 01:16:57,250
thing just because I've seen a lot in 25

1611
01:17:02,450 --> 01:17:00,370
years I've captured a lot I would say

1612
01:17:06,330 --> 01:17:02,460
[Music]

1613
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:06,340
99.99999% of a apparition footage is BS

1614
01:17:16,440 --> 01:17:11,650
and you know Craig shows me his footage

1615
01:17:18,990 --> 01:17:16,450
and I was absolutely floored Lord now

1616
01:17:21,030 --> 01:17:19,000
what is the back away I want to stay

1617
01:17:22,950 --> 01:17:21,040
with this but what is he at a background

1618
01:17:25,050 --> 01:17:22,960
of [\h__\h] to Island it's right there in

1619
01:17:27,780 --> 01:17:25,060
Sydney Harbour but what's the purpose of

1620
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:27,790
the island Cockatoo Island was formerly

1621
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:31,090
a convict prison a penal colony right

1622
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:35,650
and it was also a former naval base for

1623
01:17:44,070 --> 01:17:38,890
the u of the Australian Royal Navy right

1624
01:17:45,660 --> 01:17:44,080
okay Annie and and they had found kind

1625
01:17:49,260 --> 01:17:45,670
of a dark history too as well they found

1626
01:17:51,390 --> 01:17:49,270
like hidden underground that had been

1627
01:17:54,300 --> 01:17:51,400
filled in by concrete under like torture

1628
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:54,310
chambers and everything's so they

1629
01:18:00,000 --> 01:17:56,170
believe that during when it was a prison

1630
01:18:01,710 --> 01:18:00,010
and lively dark stuff went on really

1631
01:18:04,590 --> 01:18:01,720
thick history and yeah it's right there

1632
01:18:06,870 --> 01:18:04,600
right I mean you can see the

1633
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:06,880
world-famous opera house you know the

1634
01:18:10,860 --> 01:18:09,130
sydney building with the cool roofs yeah

1635
01:18:15,060 --> 01:18:10,870
you know that's around the water you can

1636
01:18:16,650 --> 01:18:15,070
see that from Cockatoo Island I mean

1637
01:18:19,850 --> 01:18:16,660
it's right there you see the bridge

1638
01:18:22,290 --> 01:18:19,860
everything you're right off the harbour

1639
01:18:25,590 --> 01:18:22,300
what's really interesting too about the

1640
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:25,600
place is the government the reason the

1641
01:18:29,490 --> 01:18:26,890
government got involved and brought

1642
01:18:31,140 --> 01:18:29,500
Craig and his team out is because they

1643
01:18:33,810 --> 01:18:31,150
were looking for forever to try to

1644
01:18:37,170 --> 01:18:33,820
figure out something to do with this old

1645
01:18:38,940 --> 01:18:37,180
military property for lack of any better

1646
01:18:42,810 --> 01:18:38,950
ideas this you know let's make it into a

1647
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:42,820
public park for everyone as you know

1648
01:18:48,150 --> 01:18:45,850
free ferry shuttle service over here and

1649
01:18:50,700 --> 01:18:48,160
they went as far to say look we're gonna

1650
01:18:54,210 --> 01:18:50,710
you know the government is going to buy

1651
01:18:56,940 --> 01:18:54,220
these incredible like tents and camping

1652
01:18:59,790 --> 01:18:56,950
gear and they rode up and we were like

1653
01:19:02,430 --> 01:18:59,800
hundreds of them and it's free you can

1654
01:19:04,620 --> 01:19:02,440
come out and you'll have a full grill I

1655
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:04,630
mean the most amazing tents you've ever

1656
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:08,050
seen I mean the most comfortable and you

1657
01:19:11,730 --> 01:19:09,130
know when you go out there you will

1658
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:11,740
notice you won't find the soul taken

1659
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:13,330
advantage of it you know I I'm looking

1660
01:19:18,780 --> 01:19:15,970
at pictures here of the tents and it's

1661
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:18,790
cam in it but there's not a single

1662
01:19:25,440 --> 01:19:22,290
person not Anna grace in there because

1663
01:19:28,650 --> 01:19:25,450
and this is like they called Craig

1664
01:19:30,900 --> 01:19:28,660
because not only staff but you know the

1665
01:19:36,530 --> 01:19:30,910
public I mean they had like the stacked

1666
01:19:40,860 --> 01:19:36,540
this book of just tons and tons of

1667
01:19:44,010 --> 01:19:40,870
paranormal claims and and they just were

1668
01:19:48,660 --> 01:19:44,020
like you know what is going on and they

1669
01:19:51,030 --> 01:19:48,670
had a you know current government staff

1670
01:19:54,030 --> 01:19:51,040
that would quit and wouldn't work their

1671
01:19:56,580 --> 01:19:54,040
edge staff that refused to go back and

1672
01:20:00,060 --> 01:19:56,590
you know they were trying to you know

1673
01:20:02,550 --> 01:20:00,070
get Craig and his team to come out there

1674
01:20:03,900 --> 01:20:02,560
and it was more - and I'm going to give

1675
01:20:06,620 --> 01:20:03,910
it completely away but they ultimately

1676
01:20:11,250 --> 01:20:06,630
had a hoped he would debunk things

1677
01:20:13,980 --> 01:20:11,260
that's what they had hoped for so when

1678
01:20:19,740 --> 01:20:13,990
I'm watching this footage I see this

1679
01:20:23,430 --> 01:20:19,750
footage of this apparition and I knew by

1680
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:23,440
the way that it moved the the fluidity

1681
01:20:29,610 --> 01:20:27,130
and which it moved the clarity of it I

1682
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:29,620
mean this thing is 8 feet in front of

1683
01:20:37,410 --> 01:20:33,250
the camera it it looks the camera dead

1684
01:20:41,580 --> 01:20:37,420
in the eye you know as I said in the

1685
01:20:45,270 --> 01:20:41,590
trailer what I do was this is the most

1686
01:20:47,580 --> 01:20:45,280
elaborate hoax ever conducted the

1687
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:47,590
paranormal well it's too good to be true

1688
01:20:54,390 --> 01:20:51,690
I mean you won't do a Craig Wright or he

1689
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:54,400
you know captured that piece that

1690
01:20:59,430 --> 01:20:56,410
definitively proves the existence of

1691
01:21:02,160 --> 01:20:59,440
ghosts at that point I wasn't in the

1692
01:21:04,350 --> 01:21:02,170
position to talk to him just because we

1693
01:21:05,850 --> 01:21:04,360
had guests and and you know a lot of

1694
01:21:08,370 --> 01:21:05,860
people out the island were taking care

1695
01:21:10,590 --> 01:21:08,380
of them we were hosts for so time

1696
01:21:11,970 --> 01:21:10,600
wouldn't buy a little bit transpired and

1697
01:21:13,710 --> 01:21:11,980
I thought about it more I watched the

1698
01:21:15,860 --> 01:21:13,720
footage some more and I became more and

1699
01:21:17,700 --> 01:21:15,870
more intrigued every time I saw it

1700
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:17,710
especially with all the stories

1701
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:20,890
everybody else who had experience and

1702
01:21:25,380 --> 01:21:22,690
you know the flashes of light and

1703
01:21:29,100 --> 01:21:25,390
experiencer themselves so I basically

1704
01:21:31,319 --> 01:21:29,110
said to Craig here's bill you know I

1705
01:21:36,990 --> 01:21:31,329
would like to tell your story

1706
01:21:40,049 --> 01:21:37,000
but part of the story Craig is I have to

1707
01:21:43,589 --> 01:21:40,059
know this is real which means I'm going

1708
01:21:46,950 --> 01:21:43,599
to do everything I can in my power every

1709
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:46,960
resource I have I'm going to exhaust

1710
01:21:53,339 --> 01:21:49,090
every option and opportunity that I have

1711
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:53,349
to prove that you fake this if I find

1712
01:21:57,810 --> 01:21:56,170
out you did fake this then I'm going to

1713
01:22:00,959 --> 01:21:57,820
make a movie about the guy who faked

1714
01:22:02,970 --> 01:22:00,969
this right no nothing wrong but yeah you

1715
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:02,980
got to make a choice here do you really

1716
01:22:08,030 --> 01:22:05,650
want to go down this road because I'm

1717
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:08,040
being dead suited as I explained to him

1718
01:22:16,109 --> 01:22:12,010
fans of mine have come to know my films

1719
01:22:17,850 --> 01:22:16,119
as being as straightforward as they come

1720
01:22:19,109 --> 01:22:17,860
if it's in the shadow documentaries you

1721
01:22:22,500 --> 01:22:19,119
could check it to the bank there's

1722
01:22:24,930 --> 01:22:22,510
nothing fake danger hoax ever ever in my

1723
01:22:27,750 --> 01:22:24,940
films so I said to him you know you got

1724
01:22:30,569 --> 01:22:27,760
to be sugar man you know and from the

1725
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:30,579
beginning he was extremely confident

1726
01:22:35,790 --> 01:22:32,650
just had nothing to hide absolutely

1727
01:22:37,410 --> 01:22:35,800
let's go um you know I said listen I'm

1728
01:22:39,209 --> 01:22:37,420
going to jump into your life I'm going

1729
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:39,219
to jump into your family situation I'm

1730
01:22:42,209 --> 01:22:40,570
going to I'm going to go out to that

1731
01:22:44,549 --> 01:22:42,219
Island I'm going to figure out every

1732
01:22:46,919 --> 01:22:44,559
last detail that was going on that night

1733
01:22:48,359 --> 01:22:46,929
and you know because there was two

1734
01:22:48,930 --> 01:22:48,369
ladies in my mind that it could have

1735
01:22:53,100 --> 01:22:48,940
been faked

1736
01:22:56,850 --> 01:22:53,110
either a being was there that was filmed

1737
01:22:59,370 --> 01:22:56,860
or it was CGI and I said to him you know

1738
01:23:01,200 --> 01:22:59,380
the when the top CGI experts in the

1739
01:23:03,930 --> 01:23:01,210
world the first guy that brought

1740
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:03,940
transformers back to life is a great

1741
01:23:06,629 --> 01:23:05,290
friend of mine he's going to take a look

1742
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:06,639
at the footage and he's going to tell me

1743
01:23:13,220 --> 01:23:09,489
if it's CGI or not and at the same time

1744
01:23:16,649 --> 01:23:13,230
we had enough information witnesses and

1745
01:23:18,419 --> 01:23:16,659
records and everything to prove who was

1746
01:23:20,330 --> 01:23:18,429
on the island that night who could have

1747
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:20,340
been on the island everything and

1748
01:23:25,140 --> 01:23:23,650
there's also another portion that I

1749
01:23:29,939 --> 01:23:25,150
don't want to give away but something

1750
01:23:32,450 --> 01:23:29,949
happens to make this ironclad that it

1751
01:23:36,330 --> 01:23:32,460
couldn't have been a human being and

1752
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:36,340
what building was it a shot at on the

1753
01:23:42,839 --> 01:23:40,690
island it was shot at what we we cut

1754
01:23:46,110 --> 01:23:42,849
it's known as the officers quarters

1755
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:46,120
where we call it serious how

1756
01:23:50,910 --> 01:23:48,250
you'd have to I have to be looking at

1757
01:23:57,300 --> 01:23:50,920
the map to show you where it's at but it

1758
01:23:59,790 --> 01:23:57,310
is on the it would be the I'm looking at

1759
01:24:01,950 --> 01:23:59,800
a photo of it I'm looking at it too as

1760
01:24:06,870 --> 01:24:01,960
well I'm looking at a map on the south

1761
01:24:09,630 --> 01:24:06,880
end on the opposite end of where the

1762
01:24:11,700 --> 01:24:09,640
ferry is right right right right you

1763
01:24:14,340 --> 01:24:11,710
should see a white square building on

1764
01:24:16,950 --> 01:24:14,350
the northeast corner like you'll come up

1765
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:16,960
a hill on the south end right there's a

1766
01:24:21,510 --> 01:24:18,730
slight square building with an open

1767
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:21,520
grassy area behind it is it okay so

1768
01:24:25,860 --> 01:24:23,770
there's the Memorial Park and there's

1769
01:24:28,650 --> 01:24:25,870
the campground on the northeast side

1770
01:24:30,180 --> 01:24:28,660
past that so it's passing hey keep going

1771
01:24:31,500 --> 01:24:30,190
down to the south and you'll see a road

1772
01:24:33,660 --> 01:24:31,510
that wraps up

1773
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:33,670
yep I'm looking at it yep that road that

1774
01:24:38,310 --> 01:24:35,770
wraps up right at the top of that hill

1775
01:24:42,480 --> 01:24:38,320
to the right that sirs house okay god

1776
01:24:45,750 --> 01:24:42,490
it's got it yeah Wow man man oh yeah I

1777
01:24:47,970 --> 01:24:45,760
mean that the short of all this is after

1778
01:24:52,500 --> 01:24:47,980
going through all of this and you will

1779
01:24:54,630 --> 01:24:52,510
see I mean how and the steps that we go

1780
01:24:56,790 --> 01:24:54,640
because here's the thing there's to me

1781
01:24:59,340 --> 01:24:56,800
there was always two things that I had

1782
01:25:01,290 --> 01:24:59,350
to figure out can't he do it could he

1783
01:25:03,750 --> 01:25:01,300
fake it and by which method would he

1784
01:25:06,150 --> 01:25:03,760
have faked it right energy the type of

1785
01:25:08,730 --> 01:25:06,160
person that was thing I mean he's got

1786
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:08,740
kids I mean like liquid he put his

1787
01:25:14,130 --> 01:25:11,530
reputation of himself his family like

1788
01:25:16,440 --> 01:25:14,140
everybody on the line knowing that if I

1789
01:25:18,090 --> 01:25:16,450
found the salad so in order you know to

1790
01:25:20,970 --> 01:25:18,100
determine these things looking you

1791
01:25:25,250 --> 01:25:20,980
really have to dig in their lives and he

1792
01:25:27,810 --> 01:25:25,260
has you know nine members on his team I

1793
01:25:31,470 --> 01:25:27,820
dug into there and with everything they

1794
01:25:33,570 --> 01:25:31,480
their experiences what they did this is

1795
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:33,580
such a fascinating documentary because

1796
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:36,850
so many people experience the same thing

1797
01:25:40,530 --> 01:25:38,290
you could break them apart just like

1798
01:25:41,730 --> 01:25:40,540
cops used to do right but to people in

1799
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:41,740
different rooms and questioned them

1800
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:43,930
simultaneously you know what I mean and

1801
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:46,810
see if the same story comes out and it

1802
01:25:51,180 --> 01:25:49,330
didn't matter how many ways you know I

1803
01:25:52,770 --> 01:25:51,190
asked different questions and tried to

1804
01:25:55,940 --> 01:25:52,780
trip people up and try to do everything

1805
01:25:57,739 --> 01:25:55,950
I could to get it's just everything

1806
01:25:59,509 --> 01:25:57,749
everything matched

1807
01:26:01,699 --> 01:25:59,519
and then when you get the analysis back

1808
01:26:03,739 --> 01:26:01,709
and you look at this footage the one

1809
01:26:07,399 --> 01:26:03,749
thing that I can promise everybody on

1810
01:26:10,909 --> 01:26:07,409
the tour is there's 30 cities August 2nd

1811
01:26:13,819 --> 01:26:10,919
to September 10th everybody go to sur no

1812
01:26:18,049 --> 01:26:13,829
face comm find out where it is at near

1813
01:26:20,269 --> 01:26:18,059
you because I promise you this is a like

1814
01:26:23,739 --> 01:26:20,279
I mean this is the real deal I mean this

1815
01:26:26,239 --> 01:26:23,749
is it he did this footage that he has

1816
01:26:28,009 --> 01:26:26,249
Jimmy I'm telling you this thing proves

1817
01:26:29,299 --> 01:26:28,019
ghosts exist all right let's take a

1818
01:26:31,159 --> 01:26:29,309
break right here we're going to discuss

1819
01:26:33,019 --> 01:26:31,169
the tour I'm going to discuss the

1820
01:26:34,489 --> 01:26:33,029
documentary I want to talk about the

1821
01:26:38,089 --> 01:26:34,499
trailer I want to talk about the

1822
01:26:40,129 --> 01:26:38,099
audience's reactions yeah all of that is

1823
01:26:41,929 --> 01:26:40,139
absolutely tremendous we'll do all of

1824
01:26:42,409 --> 01:26:41,939
that and more when we come back our

1825
01:26:45,739 --> 01:26:42,419
guest tonight

1826
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:45,749
Chad Gaelic the film is sir no face

1827
01:26:51,010 --> 01:27:00,770
[Music]

1828
01:27:07,980 --> 01:27:03,950
way out here we listen to Jimmy Church

1829
01:27:10,260 --> 01:27:07,990
you're listening to fade to black always

1830
01:27:12,810 --> 01:27:10,270
on the edge of the hottest alternative

1831
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:12,820
talk jimmy church with fade to black

1832
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:22,570
k gra radio.com people on but i guess

1833
01:27:32,340 --> 01:27:30,630
so i get out of the shower this morning

1834
01:27:34,410 --> 01:27:32,350
I'm looking in the mirror and not to

1835
01:27:36,150 --> 01:27:34,420
brag but my Beachbody is coming back I'm

1836
01:27:36,930 --> 01:27:36,160
not fearing shorts and bathing suits

1837
01:27:39,150 --> 01:27:36,940
this summer

1838
01:27:41,610 --> 01:27:39,160
and thanks to nature huge calm I'm here

1839
01:27:43,890 --> 01:27:41,620
to help you to the anti-aging experts

1840
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1841
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:45,880
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1842
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:47,890
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1843
01:27:53,340 --> 01:27:50,530
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1844
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you CHCH our human growth hormone is

1845
01:27:57,150 --> 01:27:55,180
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1846
01:27:59,880 --> 01:27:57,160
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1847
01:28:01,800 --> 01:27:59,890
my cells and tissues elevated HGH levels

1848
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:01,810
can contribute to not only increasing my

1849
01:28:05,910 --> 01:28:03,850
energy improving my libido and reducing

1850
01:28:08,340 --> 01:28:05,920
my body fat but overall improving my

1851
01:28:09,630 --> 01:28:08,350
exercise capacity now you know just by

1852
01:28:11,370 --> 01:28:09,640
watching what I eat doing a little

1853
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:11,380
exercise and taking my daily dose of

1854
01:28:16,530 --> 01:28:14,170
nature's youth RSF I'm in a swimsuit and

1855
01:28:18,660 --> 01:28:16,540
I'm happy to be there my beach body is

1856
01:28:20,580 --> 01:28:18,670
back I want you to get yours join me

1857
01:28:22,770 --> 01:28:20,590
today and look better and less with help

1858
01:28:24,870 --> 01:28:22,780
from nature's youth it's easy go to

1859
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:24,880
nature's youth calm that's nature's

1860
01:28:33,060 --> 01:28:29,410
youth calm and bring on the sunshine you

1861
01:28:34,350 --> 01:28:33,070
listen to us and we listen to you so

1862
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:34,360
does the CIA

1863
01:28:41,790 --> 01:28:37,170
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1864
01:28:43,830 --> 01:28:41,800
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1865
01:28:45,690 --> 01:28:43,840
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1866
01:28:48,420 --> 01:28:45,700
us because of what it does for the body

1867
01:28:50,610 --> 01:28:48,430
unfortunately I can't tell you all about

1868
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:50,620
the benefit you know there's reasons do

1869
01:28:55,020 --> 01:28:52,690
your due diligence and log on to ancient

1870
01:28:57,390 --> 01:28:55,030
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1871
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1872
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1873
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1874
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:03,280
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1875
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:06,130
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1876
01:29:12,480 --> 01:29:07,210
oil calm

1877
01:29:15,300 --> 01:29:12,490
that's angel calm you are listening to

1878
01:29:20,580 --> 01:29:15,310
say to black with ginger on the game

1879
01:29:22,620 --> 01:29:20,590
changing Network hi I'm Lisa Vance your

1880
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:22,630
listings Jimmy Church this is a

1881
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:25,570
revolution the revolution will not be

1882
01:29:33,890 --> 01:30:12,200
[Music]

1883
01:30:16,500 --> 01:30:14,430
welcome back fade to black I'm your host

1884
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:16,510
Jimmy Church follow me on Twitter at J

1885
01:30:21,300 --> 01:30:18,970
Church radio our guest tonight

1886
01:30:25,590 --> 01:30:21,310
Chad Gaelic and you can follow Chad at

1887
01:30:26,130 --> 01:30:25,600
agh Chad Kayla on Twitter he is our

1888
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:26,140
guest tonight

1889
01:30:30,540 --> 01:30:27,970
he was the coast iron director of a news

1890
01:30:33,570 --> 01:30:30,550
hit reality series Paranormal State and

1891
01:30:37,110 --> 01:30:33,580
his new film is called sir no face it's

1892
01:30:37,890 --> 01:30:37,120
a documentary on sir no face I just put

1893
01:30:41,310 --> 01:30:37,900
up in Twitter

1894
01:30:42,660 --> 01:30:41,320
it is dub-dub-dub sir no face calm and

1895
01:30:43,590 --> 01:30:42,670
you go check out the trailer which we're

1896
01:30:47,610 --> 01:30:43,600
going to talk about now

1897
01:30:49,230 --> 01:30:47,620
Chad the the the way that you did the

1898
01:30:53,460 --> 01:30:49,240
trailer here it's not your typical

1899
01:30:57,030 --> 01:30:53,470
trailer and he's back right it's it's

1900
01:30:59,550 --> 01:30:57,040
not that kind of trailer it's like 12 or

1901
01:31:03,060 --> 01:30:59,560
15 minutes long it's like a little mini

1902
01:31:04,290 --> 01:31:03,070
documentary in itself whose idea was

1903
01:31:06,420 --> 01:31:04,300
that because I thought it was pretty

1904
01:31:09,990 --> 01:31:06,430
clever and it really tells a lot about

1905
01:31:13,850 --> 01:31:10,000
the film um those months yeah I'm just

1906
01:31:16,440 --> 01:31:13,860
you know I I don't adhere to the whole

1907
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:16,450
you got to hit people in two minutes or

1908
01:31:19,020 --> 01:31:16,690
less

1909
01:31:21,900 --> 01:31:19,030
you know not if it's not if it's good

1910
01:31:23,310 --> 01:31:21,910
and not participating and not if it's

1911
01:31:27,210 --> 01:31:23,320
worth more than two minutes of your time

1912
01:31:29,940 --> 01:31:27,220
and I think you know Craig's story

1913
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:29,950
I think capturing the piece of evidence

1914
01:31:36,810 --> 01:31:33,370
that I believe definitively proves it

1915
01:31:39,420 --> 01:31:36,820
ghost exists I think is worth people's

1916
01:31:43,410 --> 01:31:39,430
time and I think it was really important

1917
01:31:46,010 --> 01:31:43,420
to show the responses the people that

1918
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:46,020
are admitted skeptics that are coming

1919
01:31:50,310 --> 01:31:48,610
you know to the screenings that are

1920
01:31:52,470 --> 01:31:50,320
walking in saying like I'm a skeptic I

1921
01:31:54,900 --> 01:31:52,480
don't believe in this stuff and to see

1922
01:31:58,980 --> 01:31:54,910
you know how hard hitting the film is

1923
01:32:00,780 --> 01:31:58,990
and how it affects them I think you know

1924
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:00,790
I wanted to make something that stood

1925
01:32:05,220 --> 01:32:03,130
out and said you know this is something

1926
01:32:07,470 --> 01:32:05,230
different this isn't like the other

1927
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:07,480
paranormal stuff you've seen like this

1928
01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:10,810
is this is real in the most sincere form

1929
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:14,650
of the work and that's when you know

1930
01:32:18,660 --> 01:32:16,090
that's not like the kind of lengthy or

1931
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:18,670
mini documentary came about I was to

1932
01:32:23,410 --> 01:32:22,090
give my people idea of what the tour was

1933
01:32:25,330 --> 01:32:23,420
like and what

1934
01:32:27,970 --> 01:32:25,340
the experiences people were having and

1935
01:32:30,790 --> 01:32:27,980
also the power of the film itself now as

1936
01:32:33,370 --> 01:32:30,800
the the documentary the trailers the

1937
01:32:36,790 --> 01:32:33,380
documentary the trailer is a documentary

1938
01:32:38,500 --> 01:32:36,800
of the documentary and one of the things

1939
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:38,510
that you explain there I want you to

1940
01:32:45,610 --> 01:32:41,530
walk me through it is that this is your

1941
01:32:48,669 --> 01:32:45,620
adventure of attempting to debunk Craigs

1942
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:48,679
footage so yeah absolutely you have to

1943
01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:51,410
assemble a team together and you guys

1944
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:54,050
start to watch the footage so how did

1945
01:32:58,900 --> 01:32:56,570
you put the team together and as they

1946
01:33:01,180 --> 01:32:58,910
started to watch the footage what was

1947
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:01,190
their reaction take me through that

1948
01:33:06,700 --> 01:33:04,370
process yeah you know I was the first

1949
01:33:10,390 --> 01:33:06,710
person I was to see Craig's footage so

1950
01:33:13,030 --> 01:33:10,400
um I had to basically lean on the guys

1951
01:33:15,700 --> 01:33:13,040
that I knew and in the industry one of

1952
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:15,710
the great things about working you know

1953
01:33:20,290 --> 01:33:18,050
in the Hollywood industry is you know we

1954
01:33:22,660 --> 01:33:20,300
understand how things could be faked as

1955
01:33:24,189 --> 01:33:22,670
filmmakers and editors and and you know

1956
01:33:26,350 --> 01:33:24,199
we're familiar with the software that

1957
01:33:29,229 --> 01:33:26,360
people using that we have friends in the

1958
01:33:32,350 --> 01:33:29,239
industry so it's very easy for us to

1959
01:33:34,150 --> 01:33:32,360
kind of debunk things and and you know

1960
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:34,160
each person that I showed it to him on

1961
01:33:39,790 --> 01:33:37,010
my team I mean they all had their there

1962
01:33:43,169 --> 01:33:39,800
on their own unique approach to it but

1963
01:33:45,850 --> 01:33:43,179
everyone was equally staggered by it a

1964
01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:45,860
shock would be the best word because

1965
01:33:52,060 --> 01:33:50,690
there is a way it is so hard to describe

1966
01:33:53,740 --> 01:33:52,070
because there isn't a word in the

1967
01:33:59,370 --> 01:33:53,750
English language for it but there is a

1968
01:34:02,830 --> 01:33:59,380
way that's there no phase moves that is

1969
01:34:05,919 --> 01:34:02,840
almost independent of gravity it looks

1970
01:34:10,750 --> 01:34:05,929
almost like it's in water it is so

1971
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:10,760
bizarre it's so fluid and smooth and you

1972
01:34:16,450 --> 01:34:12,770
could tell right away that it's human

1973
01:34:20,110 --> 01:34:16,460
ish you know it's it's in the figure

1974
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:20,120
certainly of a human being and but

1975
01:34:24,390 --> 01:34:22,130
there's just like nothing works the

1976
01:34:27,790 --> 01:34:24,400
physics of the body don't work the way

1977
01:34:29,590 --> 01:34:27,800
the physics of our body works but this

1978
01:34:32,770 --> 01:34:29,600
is something that's very there you don't

1979
01:34:34,959 --> 01:34:32,780
have to squint to look to see it I mean

1980
01:34:35,649 --> 01:34:34,969
it's like blammo you know right in your

1981
01:34:39,220 --> 01:34:35,659
face

1982
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:39,230
and you know my team was floored by it

1983
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:41,210
and everybody couldn't wait to take a

1984
01:34:46,030 --> 01:34:43,130
crack at it and try to figure out you

1985
01:34:50,430 --> 01:34:46,040
know how could they have have faked this

1986
01:34:53,770 --> 01:34:50,440
and did you attempt to recreate it oh

1987
01:34:57,729 --> 01:34:53,780
sure yeah I didn't was sort of so did

1988
01:34:59,470 --> 01:34:57,739
Craig and we also did that with liftop

1989
01:35:02,410 --> 01:34:59,480
CGI expert in Hollywood which you'll see

1990
01:35:04,959 --> 01:35:02,420
in the film to know we went through the

1991
01:35:09,129 --> 01:35:04,969
end of the world man to try to like

1992
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:09,139
figure out you know how this could have

1993
01:35:14,229 --> 01:35:10,610
been faked and that's the thing the film

1994
01:35:17,350 --> 01:35:14,239
provides such context to what happened

1995
01:35:19,689 --> 01:35:17,360
into retreating that night and you know

1996
01:35:21,430 --> 01:35:19,699
figuring out who was there and who could

1997
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:21,440
have been there and who couldn't have

1998
01:35:27,010 --> 01:35:24,770
been there and and there's there's such

1999
01:35:30,129 --> 01:35:27,020
an aha moment in this film I don't want

2000
01:35:32,260 --> 01:35:30,139
to give it away now that every time when

2001
01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:32,270
it happens you just you can hear the

2002
01:35:38,860 --> 01:35:35,810
crowd just go oh my god when you realize

2003
01:35:43,750 --> 01:35:38,870
that this is real this is the real deal

2004
01:35:47,530 --> 01:35:43,760
and he captured it and it is such a

2005
01:35:49,899 --> 01:35:47,540
stunning revelation that you can feel

2006
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:49,909
like a wisp through the audience and you

2007
01:35:52,899 --> 01:35:51,290
can see in some of the footage you can

2008
01:35:54,850 --> 01:35:52,909
hear the audience response when they

2009
01:35:57,370 --> 01:35:54,860
first see sterno face I mean they're

2010
01:35:59,890 --> 01:35:57,380
screaming you know in their seats

2011
01:36:01,899 --> 01:35:59,900
because it is very very powerful he's

2012
01:36:04,110 --> 01:36:01,909
very very powerful you bring up

2013
01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:04,120
something that's really important

2014
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:07,850
technology today we're all exposed to it

2015
01:36:11,979 --> 01:36:09,650
that's the first thing the second here

2016
01:36:14,979 --> 01:36:11,989
in Hollywood and it's a very important

2017
01:36:17,590 --> 01:36:14,989
point to drive home even you know with

2018
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:17,600
me and what I have done and I'm

2019
01:36:23,410 --> 01:36:19,730
currently doing with History Channel and

2020
01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:23,420
I see the talented kids that are running

2021
01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:25,250
around here it's sick the amount of

2022
01:36:31,570 --> 01:36:29,090
talent that is here on Hollywood is it's

2023
01:36:34,930 --> 01:36:31,580
extraordinary and I'm intimidated by

2024
01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:34,940
because the the talent is on every level

2025
01:36:40,750 --> 01:36:38,330
and they are looking these kids are so

2026
01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:40,760
good they are looking but they know how

2027
01:36:44,919 --> 01:36:43,730
everything is done man okay they know

2028
01:36:47,950 --> 01:36:44,929
and they're going to see through

2029
01:36:48,820 --> 01:36:47,960
something instantaneously and if they

2030
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:48,830
can't

2031
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:50,810
get out these talented kids here in

2032
01:36:58,260 --> 01:36:53,570
Hollywood that's a that's a pretty bold

2033
01:37:02,920 --> 01:36:58,270
statement and I think it speaks volumes

2034
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:02,930
the the other part of what I'm trying to

2035
01:37:10,930 --> 01:37:07,250
say here is the audience is also equally

2036
01:37:14,410 --> 01:37:10,940
as acclimated to footage we've all seen

2037
01:37:16,660 --> 01:37:14,420
YouTube we've seen every scary movie

2038
01:37:19,900 --> 01:37:16,670
known to man everything in Hollywood is

2039
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:19,910
very slickly produced now and when we

2040
01:37:26,140 --> 01:37:23,210
know what is real and what is not and we

2041
01:37:29,860 --> 01:37:26,150
know what's really good and it fakes us

2042
01:37:32,050 --> 01:37:29,870
right add an audio note so if you're

2043
01:37:35,620 --> 01:37:32,060
going to show something and plain that

2044
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:35,630
it is real man your ducts better be in a

2045
01:37:39,700 --> 01:37:37,370
roll here because the audience is going

2046
01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:39,710
to call BS well that's one of the

2047
01:37:45,250 --> 01:37:42,050
reasons why it was so important for me

2048
01:37:47,020 --> 01:37:45,260
to take the Selma tour and who promised

2049
01:37:49,660 --> 01:37:47,030
everybody when the phone was over I will

2050
01:37:52,330 --> 01:37:49,670
stand in front of the filmmaker and I'll

2051
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:52,340
answer any question you have take any

2052
01:37:56,590 --> 01:37:55,130
criticism you may have because I know in

2053
01:38:01,840 --> 01:37:56,600
my heart how this ends

2054
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:01,850
and after 17 shows that we did it to

2055
01:38:10,450 --> 01:38:05,930
purely test the director's cut last July

2056
01:38:12,900 --> 01:38:10,460
I never once got a attactive and I mean

2057
01:38:16,930 --> 01:38:12,910
like verbally not physically by anybody

2058
01:38:19,090 --> 01:38:16,940
you know over and over again the

2059
01:38:21,490 --> 01:38:19,100
responses well you see the responses in

2060
01:38:23,650 --> 01:38:21,500
the trailer over and oh and there's

2061
01:38:25,570 --> 01:38:23,660
there's a reason why we kept putting so

2062
01:38:28,480 --> 01:38:25,580
many of them in is to just show you that

2063
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:28,490
this wasn't selective editing these are

2064
01:38:33,010 --> 01:38:31,010
every walk of life that you can imagine

2065
01:38:34,900 --> 01:38:33,020
coming in and through that theater if

2066
01:38:37,870 --> 01:38:34,910
you watch the trailer it's of all ages

2067
01:38:41,770 --> 01:38:37,880
right it's young kids it's older men

2068
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:41,780
it's yeah you know I am village women

2069
01:38:47,190 --> 01:38:46,010
you know white black Latino it doesn't

2070
01:38:49,780 --> 01:38:47,200
matter it didn't matter what their

2071
01:38:51,190 --> 01:38:49,790
religious views were their age like the

2072
01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:51,200
bottom of somebody's watching the same

2073
01:38:57,529 --> 01:38:54,410
thing and they're looking at extremely

2074
01:38:59,870 --> 01:38:57,539
extremely real process that happened

2075
01:39:03,020 --> 01:38:59,880
and they're left with the same lack of

2076
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:03,030
an explanation that we were and yeah

2077
01:39:07,850 --> 01:39:05,610
it's very important for me to stand up

2078
01:39:10,220 --> 01:39:07,860
and say exactly said if you're going to

2079
01:39:12,290 --> 01:39:10,230
make a statement that's bold I agree

2080
01:39:15,290 --> 01:39:12,300
with you you had better have the goods

2081
01:39:17,629 --> 01:39:15,300
and if I didn't know for a fact that we

2082
01:39:20,750 --> 01:39:17,639
had the goods I wouldn't do this now

2083
01:39:23,299 --> 01:39:20,760
tell me why I'm joining the church at

2084
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:23,309
tell me you you had to have one guy come

2085
01:39:29,479 --> 01:39:25,530
up and go man I I know how that was done

2086
01:39:31,729 --> 01:39:29,489
you had that one that was right not one

2087
01:39:33,859 --> 01:39:31,739
there goes this thing ahead his one girl

2088
01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:33,869
said I could tell you right now that's

2089
01:39:38,330 --> 01:39:36,090
not a ghost and I said well ma'am that

2090
01:39:39,620 --> 01:39:38,340
that's your you know prerogative and she

2091
01:39:42,770 --> 01:39:39,630
goes it's an alien

2092
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:42,780
oh really yeah she believed it was just

2093
01:39:47,629 --> 01:39:44,730
few thoughts in her face was an alien

2094
01:39:50,330 --> 01:39:47,639
now tell me where they tell me the name

2095
01:39:53,390 --> 01:39:50,340
sir no face is just creepy from the word

2096
01:39:57,520 --> 01:39:53,400
go oh yeah where did that come from well

2097
01:40:03,580 --> 01:39:57,530
tell me is it actually it was a slang

2098
01:40:06,410 --> 01:40:03,590
sir is what the entity goes by and

2099
01:40:13,129 --> 01:40:06,420
responds to and you'll see why in the

2100
01:40:16,339 --> 01:40:13,139
film sir the no-face nickname came from

2101
01:40:20,419 --> 01:40:16,349
the fact that when Craig was describing

2102
01:40:26,450 --> 01:40:20,429
this entity you'll see that it has it

2103
01:40:30,140 --> 01:40:26,460
has these facial features but no like no

2104
01:40:31,729 --> 01:40:30,150
like human definition so he when he

2105
01:40:33,859 --> 01:40:31,739
first described to me he said it's so

2106
01:40:37,279 --> 01:40:33,869
weird it has like all the features but

2107
01:40:40,490 --> 01:40:37,289
no face so he would we were referring to

2108
01:40:43,939 --> 01:40:40,500
the footage just talking about it back

2109
01:40:46,129 --> 01:40:43,949
and forth to slang at some point one of

2110
01:40:49,250 --> 01:40:46,139
us started referring to it as the no

2111
01:40:52,609 --> 01:40:49,260
face footage when that overtime just

2112
01:40:54,140 --> 01:40:52,619
became sir no face which I was sitting

2113
01:40:56,540 --> 01:40:54,150
around thinking about you know what

2114
01:40:58,100 --> 01:40:56,550
would I call this and I just made the

2115
01:41:01,430 --> 01:40:58,110
most sense because that's what we refer

2116
01:41:03,430 --> 01:41:01,440
to as that entity how much footage did

2117
01:41:06,580 --> 01:41:03,440
Craig have

2118
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:06,590
so much I mean I could have made five

2119
01:41:14,709 --> 01:41:10,370
other documentaries in fact this sir no

2120
01:41:16,390 --> 01:41:14,719
face is just one story and only because

2121
01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:16,400
I couldn't I couldn't make a nine-hour

2122
01:41:21,070 --> 01:41:19,370
documentary but he has another entity

2123
01:41:23,200 --> 01:41:21,080
yes you have to understand they spent

2124
01:41:27,310 --> 01:41:23,210
two years on this island

2125
01:41:29,950 --> 01:41:27,320
okay so right there they've done with no

2126
01:41:32,860 --> 01:41:29,960
other investigators get to do no one get

2127
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:32,870
to spend that long at the same location

2128
01:41:38,290 --> 01:41:35,090
hunting and hunting and hunting and

2129
01:41:39,820 --> 01:41:38,300
hunting and developing a rapport and

2130
01:41:42,700 --> 01:41:39,830
that's what they says like you know we

2131
01:41:46,110 --> 01:41:42,710
have relationships with these spirits

2132
01:41:50,050 --> 01:41:46,120
which is hard to imagine or believe but

2133
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:50,060
there is so many other stories like you

2134
01:41:56,560 --> 01:41:52,489
know Craighead show me the footage of

2135
01:41:58,240 --> 01:41:56,570
this female spirit that he would they

2136
01:41:59,800 --> 01:41:58,250
would turn on this white noise generator

2137
01:42:02,169 --> 01:41:59,810
and every time the dude she would start

2138
01:42:04,149 --> 01:42:02,179
singing and they thought you know oh

2139
01:42:05,620 --> 01:42:04,159
this is a radio or something you know

2140
01:42:10,180 --> 01:42:05,630
what I mean like we're picking it up but

2141
01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:10,190
you're singing until you know this their

2142
01:42:15,390 --> 01:42:13,250
friend Dan came in with a guitar and sat

2143
01:42:18,459 --> 01:42:15,400
down and said you know if you're

2144
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:18,469
actually a spirit you know what you sing

2145
01:42:24,010 --> 01:42:21,650
with me and the spirit would not only

2146
01:42:27,399 --> 01:42:24,020
sing with him she would harmonize with

2147
01:42:30,660 --> 01:42:27,409
him and he has a footage of this oh wow

2148
01:42:33,939 --> 01:42:30,670
which is crazy now that's not that's not

2149
01:42:37,270 --> 01:42:33,949
yeah and in the other stuff they

2150
01:42:40,510 --> 01:42:37,280
considered if they recorded out there

2151
01:42:43,330 --> 01:42:40,520
I'm going to give you a Craig's number

2152
01:42:45,070 --> 01:42:43,340
he would love to come on the show and I

2153
01:42:48,370 --> 01:42:45,080
think you getting I would love for you

2154
01:42:50,140 --> 01:42:48,380
to hear from him as well about his stuff

2155
01:42:53,169 --> 01:42:50,150
too so I'll give you his info to contact

2156
01:42:55,780 --> 01:42:53,179
him too now what is this done to the

2157
01:42:58,030 --> 01:42:55,790
already suffering tourism industry are

2158
01:43:02,410 --> 01:42:58,040
Cockatoo Island yeah

2159
01:43:04,180 --> 01:43:02,420
well the funny thing is gosh how I

2160
01:43:09,310 --> 01:43:04,190
enters without giving away part of the

2161
01:43:16,930 --> 01:43:09,320
ending of the film Cockatoo Island right

2162
01:43:19,209 --> 01:43:16,940
now unfortunately is no longer suppose

2163
01:43:23,350 --> 01:43:19,219
of paranormal investigating on the

2164
01:43:24,160 --> 01:43:23,360
island in a nutshell they're scared to

2165
01:43:26,709 --> 01:43:24,170
death of it

2166
01:43:28,270 --> 01:43:26,719
and when the word got out that the

2167
01:43:33,130 --> 01:43:28,280
government was sanctioning a paranormal

2168
01:43:36,310 --> 01:43:33,140
investigation there's also kind of crap

2169
01:43:38,650 --> 01:43:36,320
we got caught type of thing sometimes

2170
01:43:40,930 --> 01:43:38,660
it's very grey and the film could send

2171
01:43:44,890 --> 01:43:40,940
it out a lot as far as you know what is

2172
01:43:46,930 --> 01:43:44,900
going on the island right now but the

2173
01:43:50,020 --> 01:43:46,940
funny thing is you know we definitely

2174
01:43:54,750 --> 01:43:50,030
have heard reports already because the

2175
01:43:58,600 --> 01:43:54,760
two with three shows three screens of

2176
01:44:00,490 --> 01:43:58,610
siniface in Sydney within 24 hours and

2177
01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:00,500
they all just sold out bang bang bang

2178
01:44:05,110 --> 01:44:02,570
bang so people are just super excited

2179
01:44:08,050 --> 01:44:05,120
about it and the legend has grown over

2180
01:44:10,420 --> 01:44:08,060
there's so much that really couple

2181
01:44:12,459 --> 01:44:10,430
friends over there that know people that

2182
01:44:14,500 --> 01:44:12,469
you know actually work at the island and

2183
01:44:16,810 --> 01:44:14,510
they're saying that they're regularly

2184
01:44:19,270 --> 01:44:16,820
visited now by people who want to see

2185
01:44:22,240 --> 01:44:19,280
sir--no face and once you go to say no

2186
01:44:24,220 --> 01:44:22,250
faces building which is pretty

2187
01:44:26,500 --> 01:44:24,230
interesting which I really think the

2188
01:44:29,650 --> 01:44:26,510
government should you know should allow

2189
01:44:32,470 --> 01:44:29,660
people to experience danger I mean I had

2190
01:44:34,450 --> 01:44:32,480
the chance before the last paranormal

2191
01:44:37,570 --> 01:44:34,460
investigation conducted on Cockatoo

2192
01:44:39,130 --> 01:44:37,580
Island I was able to take part in before

2193
01:44:42,370 --> 01:44:39,140
they cancelled them all and shut it down

2194
01:44:45,220 --> 01:44:42,380
and don't allow it and I experienced all

2195
01:44:47,800 --> 01:44:45,230
kinds of stuff I you know I literally

2196
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:47,810
followed a gentleman into a room that we

2197
01:44:51,790 --> 01:44:49,610
were just investigating and I say

2198
01:44:53,700 --> 01:44:51,800
followed gentleman I I followed a man

2199
01:44:57,520 --> 01:44:53,710
like I didn't it I didn't think it was a

2200
01:44:58,870 --> 01:44:57,530
ghost in any capacity I went outside to

2201
01:45:00,939 --> 01:44:58,880
have a cigarette after we were hunting

2202
01:45:02,590 --> 01:45:00,949
for a while I came back in and there was

2203
01:45:04,420 --> 01:45:02,600
a man standing by the door the room that

2204
01:45:06,310 --> 01:45:04,430
I was just in as I approached him he

2205
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:06,320
walked into the room that had no other

2206
01:45:12,010 --> 01:45:09,050
exits in which there was nobody there

2207
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:12,020
and this happened you know minutes you

2208
01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:14,410
know after the first you know half-hour

2209
01:45:19,220 --> 01:45:17,090
ghost session that weekend no you think

2210
01:45:23,480 --> 01:45:19,230
you followed him into the room

2211
01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:23,490
and he wasn't there yeah it's doing so I

2212
01:45:27,470 --> 01:45:26,130
can describe it like I came around from

2213
01:45:29,390 --> 01:45:27,480
outside have a cigarette and there was a

2214
01:45:33,070 --> 01:45:29,400
man yet a longer black trench coat on

2215
01:45:35,450 --> 01:45:33,080
and I thought he must be either been

2216
01:45:37,970 --> 01:45:35,460
with another group because we had three

2217
01:45:41,570 --> 01:45:37,980
groups tonight or I thought he must work

2218
01:45:45,860 --> 01:45:41,580
for the island so he's probably about 15

2219
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:45,870
a.m. anywhere from 10 to 15 feet in

2220
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:48,810
front of me and I watched him turn the

2221
01:45:54,770 --> 01:45:51,210
corner and go into the side room we were

2222
01:45:56,540 --> 01:45:54,780
just in so again I'm thinking you know

2223
01:45:57,980 --> 01:45:56,550
he must be like cleaning up after us to

2224
01:46:00,170 --> 01:45:57,990
see it's going to be left hanging in

2225
01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:00,180
there like what's going on and I walked

2226
01:46:07,130 --> 01:46:05,010
into that side room yeah there's nobody

2227
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:07,140
there I'm now I'm house to explain it

2228
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:09,810
except to say this it was empty

2229
01:46:13,940 --> 01:46:12,210
I mean you know and I said hey I

2230
01:46:16,820 --> 01:46:13,950
probably said it for like five minutes

2231
01:46:18,710 --> 01:46:16,830
gonna melt this in my mind like what how

2232
01:46:21,380 --> 01:46:18,720
can this all be happening so fast I mean

2233
01:46:23,330 --> 01:46:21,390
we you know we also it's no way we can

2234
01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:23,340
describe it and Preston front of like 25

2235
01:46:28,250 --> 01:46:25,770
of us during the ghost hunt that we're

2236
01:46:29,450 --> 01:46:28,260
at it sounded like glass was breaking in

2237
01:46:32,330 --> 01:46:29,460
the room which there was no glass

2238
01:46:34,700 --> 01:46:32,340
breaking and it sounded like metal was

2239
01:46:36,500 --> 01:46:34,710
being thrown across the walls in the

2240
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:36,510
room and which we could not find any

2241
01:46:41,660 --> 01:46:39,810
even loose metal that could be thrown so

2242
01:46:46,060 --> 01:46:41,670
there was all kinds of weird stuff going

2243
01:46:49,310 --> 01:46:46,070
on you know on the island hell exists

2244
01:46:52,340 --> 01:46:49,320
and is the government I mean are they

2245
01:46:54,980 --> 01:46:52,350
admitting that they sanctioned this well

2246
01:46:58,010 --> 01:46:54,990
I mean what is their position today um

2247
01:47:00,680 --> 01:46:58,020
David neither confirm nor deny because

2248
01:47:02,900 --> 01:47:00,690
we have all of their correspondence I

2249
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:02,910
also have the correspondence of them

2250
01:47:09,860 --> 01:47:07,410
asking us to take their names out of the

2251
01:47:13,370 --> 01:47:09,870
trailer which I have that correspond as

2252
01:47:15,170 --> 01:47:13,380
well which I refuse to because they are

2253
01:47:18,490 --> 01:47:15,180
working in a special government class

2254
01:47:21,260 --> 01:47:18,500
that that's a sign you know there's a

2255
01:47:23,230 --> 01:47:21,270
you know state funding country federal

2256
01:47:28,160 --> 01:47:23,240
organizations the public organizations

2257
01:47:29,890 --> 01:47:28,170
so yeah they know there's no yeah

2258
01:47:32,270 --> 01:47:29,900
they're not denying or

2259
01:47:35,510 --> 01:47:32,280
except they're not they're not dressing

2260
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:35,520
it have the only they refuse to talk to

2261
01:47:39,380 --> 01:47:37,770
me about it and then like I said the

2262
01:47:42,950 --> 01:47:39,390
correspondence we have is them saying

2263
01:47:45,350 --> 01:47:42,960
you know could this girl that knew Craig

2264
01:47:47,180 --> 01:47:45,360
saying you know could you take my name

2265
01:47:49,010 --> 01:47:47,190
out of it we were good to you and now

2266
01:47:50,540 --> 01:47:49,020
you're including this and you know

2267
01:47:51,950 --> 01:47:50,550
trying to like guilt-trip him and

2268
01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:51,960
they're taking her name out of it and my

2269
01:47:56,480 --> 01:47:54,210
whole thing is like you sanctioned and

2270
01:47:57,890 --> 01:47:56,490
what what are you you know I mean what's

2271
01:48:00,680 --> 01:47:57,900
their hide are you going to be on a

2272
01:48:04,280 --> 01:48:00,690
no-fly list to Australia you know

2273
01:48:06,470 --> 01:48:04,290
stopped at customs I'm certainly nervous

2274
01:48:09,290 --> 01:48:06,480
about going back I mean just to be

2275
01:48:10,880 --> 01:48:09,300
completely real because yeah you never

2276
01:48:13,280 --> 01:48:10,890
know you know what I mean you don't know

2277
01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:13,290
it's fun Craig has a very bizarre story

2278
01:48:22,510 --> 01:48:19,050
about two gentlemen visited his house on

2279
01:48:25,820 --> 01:48:22,520
Sunday afternoon and basically told him

2280
01:48:27,980 --> 01:48:25,830
you know you're not you know you're not

2281
01:48:30,680 --> 01:48:27,990
making sure no things it's not going to

2282
01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:30,690
happen and which Craig's both of guys

2283
01:48:34,130 --> 01:48:32,850
are smiling at him and they were just

2284
01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:34,140
sitting there like you know what was

2285
01:48:37,970 --> 01:48:36,570
like chewing gum acting like he was

2286
01:48:40,280 --> 01:48:37,980
shown a toothpick or something the other

2287
01:48:42,710 --> 01:48:40,290
one just kind of laughed and Craig was

2288
01:48:45,020 --> 01:48:42,720
like well you know I'm not the one

2289
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:45,030
making you know you know Chad's making

2290
01:48:51,050 --> 01:48:49,050
and just this guy essentially you know

2291
01:48:53,420 --> 01:48:51,060
told him won't know it's not I can

2292
01:48:55,760 --> 01:48:53,430
promise you this so I mean and and the

2293
01:48:57,590 --> 01:48:55,770
only place these two people could've

2294
01:49:00,050 --> 01:48:57,600
come from there and I I never saw a

2295
01:49:02,570 --> 01:49:00,060
tional Craig swears by this swears on

2296
01:49:03,890 --> 01:49:02,580
his life by this the only place they

2297
01:49:06,440 --> 01:49:03,900
could come from as the government right

2298
01:49:09,820 --> 01:49:06,450
where else you know I mean who else

2299
01:49:14,480 --> 01:49:09,830
would you know want this to not happen

2300
01:49:18,650 --> 01:49:14,490
so I don't know why there's nothing you

2301
01:49:22,820 --> 01:49:18,660
know I'm I'm bad about there's nothing

2302
01:49:24,380 --> 01:49:22,830
about the story that you know isn't you

2303
01:49:26,540 --> 01:49:24,390
know honest or real there's nothing

2304
01:49:28,850 --> 01:49:26,550
damning towards the government I don't

2305
01:49:30,380 --> 01:49:28,860
know why they wouldn't want to told but

2306
01:49:31,970 --> 01:49:30,390
I also don't know really what's on that

2307
01:49:35,220 --> 01:49:31,980
island who knows it's an ex military

2308
01:49:38,310 --> 01:49:35,230
base you know I don't know yeah well

2309
01:49:40,500 --> 01:49:38,320
would sink and this is this is just me

2310
01:49:42,450 --> 01:49:40,510
but take advantage of it I mean people

2311
01:49:45,200 --> 01:49:42,460
would want to fly in from around the

2312
01:49:47,460 --> 01:49:45,210
world to go to this island and and

2313
01:49:50,370 --> 01:49:47,470
tourism is always a good thing I don't

2314
01:49:54,900 --> 01:49:50,380
think it's a negative thing so what it's

2315
01:49:56,700 --> 01:49:54,910
haunted island right yeah yeah I agree

2316
01:49:59,700 --> 01:49:56,710
with you hundred percent you'll see why

2317
01:50:02,790 --> 01:49:59,710
in the film you know Craig talks about a

2318
01:50:07,200 --> 01:50:02,800
couple experiences they had where they

2319
01:50:11,250 --> 01:50:07,210
got to see firsthand he had the ability

2320
01:50:13,470 --> 01:50:11,260
of Sir the power that this spirit

2321
01:50:16,979 --> 01:50:13,480
possessed and the things that it could

2322
01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:16,989
do in our physical world and it scared

2323
01:50:24,840 --> 01:50:20,410
the death of them when did you know have

2324
01:50:27,570 --> 01:50:24,850
you guys found out who sir is oh yeah I

2325
01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:27,580
believe we have a good idea but it's in

2326
01:50:32,940 --> 01:50:30,090
the movie oh man I hate it

2327
01:50:36,240 --> 01:50:32,950
dad no you're absolutely right

2328
01:50:42,330 --> 01:50:36,250
so that's revealed in the movie - yes

2329
01:50:44,190 --> 01:50:42,340
now the other part is have have they the

2330
01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:44,200
Australian government that they tried to

2331
01:50:48,479 --> 01:50:46,330
stop the film from being played and

2332
01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:48,489
played in Sydney three times they try to

2333
01:50:55,950 --> 01:50:51,250
stop it they haven't tried to stop it

2334
01:50:59,280 --> 01:50:55,960
and this thing is I think they know they

2335
01:51:01,020 --> 01:50:59,290
can't for one their governor

2336
01:51:04,260 --> 01:51:01,030
organisation so they're they're

2337
01:51:07,610 --> 01:51:04,270
certainly in we can use any photos you

2338
01:51:11,010 --> 01:51:07,620
want under them on the the Fair Use Act

2339
01:51:14,190 --> 01:51:11,020
just because we are being critical about

2340
01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:14,200
them and you know then we are

2341
01:51:18,030 --> 01:51:16,570
documentary so we are you know and

2342
01:51:21,390 --> 01:51:18,040
newsworthy

2343
01:51:24,510 --> 01:51:21,400
you know I am writing on that I live in

2344
01:51:28,410 --> 01:51:24,520
America they live in Australia their

2345
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:28,420
laws I don't government is not they

2346
01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:31,930
can't really stop it you know they could

2347
01:51:37,800 --> 01:51:33,970
they could stop me there if they wanted

2348
01:51:41,670 --> 01:51:37,810
but I also think that if they you know

2349
01:51:44,100 --> 01:51:41,680
if they tried to do that they make it 10

2350
01:51:46,110 --> 01:51:44,110
times bigger of a thing you know their

2351
01:51:48,090 --> 01:51:46,120
name right in today's world let's get

2352
01:51:51,120 --> 01:51:48,100
now no matter what you know

2353
01:51:52,980 --> 01:51:51,130
and I would see to that

2354
01:51:57,990 --> 01:51:52,990
so I think they just know that it's a

2355
01:52:01,200 --> 01:51:58,000
much bigger thing if they yeah you know

2356
01:52:05,700 --> 01:52:01,210
oh well I want to ask you really quick

2357
01:52:10,590 --> 01:52:05,710
before the break with the tour starts

2358
01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:10,600
when it starts August 2nd through

2359
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:12,850
September 10th and September 10th it

2360
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:17,530
kicks off in Austin Texas go to cirno

2361
01:52:27,660 --> 01:52:21,850
face.com there's 30 total dates I think

2362
01:52:30,480 --> 01:52:27,670
we have 28 up to more coming please go

2363
01:52:32,340 --> 01:52:30,490
check it out and it's not just a film

2364
01:52:34,830 --> 01:52:32,350
tour if you just want to see the movie

2365
01:52:36,030 --> 01:52:34,840
and enjoy the Q&A that's fine I would

2366
01:52:38,340 --> 01:52:36,040
definitely have a chicken package for

2367
01:52:41,370 --> 01:52:38,350
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2368
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2369
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2370
01:52:48,870 --> 01:52:47,140
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2371
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2372
01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:51,340
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2373
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2374
01:52:57,080 --> 01:52:55,300
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2375
01:53:02,100 --> 01:52:57,090
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2376
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2377
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2378
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2379
01:53:16,200 --> 01:53:12,400
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2380
01:53:19,680 --> 01:53:16,210
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2381
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2382
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2384
01:53:29,130 --> 01:53:27,100
everybody right whether you're novice or

2385
01:53:32,670 --> 01:53:29,140
whether you're you know have a you know

2386
01:53:35,340 --> 01:53:32,680
hardcore enthusiast visitor no-face calm

2387
01:53:37,940 --> 01:53:35,350
and help us spread this word the reason

2388
01:53:39,750 --> 01:53:37,950
we're going city city like this besides

2389
01:53:42,030 --> 01:53:39,760
basically leaning over the court of

2390
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:42,040
public opinion as we're trying to raise

2391
01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:45,010
not one blip of a media story on fox

2392
01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:47,050
news but we're trying to raise thirty

2393
01:53:52,170 --> 01:53:49,890
regions of media about what this is

2394
01:53:55,910 --> 01:53:52,180
because the world needs to see what

2395
01:53:59,280 --> 01:53:55,920
craig captured for sure now I have to I

2396
01:54:01,140 --> 01:53:59,290
just pull out my my headphones here

2397
01:54:04,439 --> 01:54:01,150
everybody's watching me live on the

2398
01:54:06,899 --> 01:54:04,449
video in the bunker there we go I got it

2399
01:54:11,580 --> 01:54:06,909
back I have to wait until September 10th

2400
01:54:13,950 --> 01:54:11,590
you'll be in Anaheim this is true I will

2401
01:54:16,919 --> 01:54:13,960
welcome you with over saintil make make

2402
01:54:19,140 --> 01:54:16,929
a trip out to Texas ma'am you know what

2403
01:54:22,890 --> 01:54:19,150
that's the thing here you've got Arizona

2404
01:54:25,560 --> 01:54:22,900
Colorado Nebraska Iowa Wisconsin

2405
01:54:27,479 --> 01:54:25,570
you've got Chicago here you got Juliet

2406
01:54:29,370 --> 01:54:27,489
and you're going to be in Indianapolis -

2407
01:54:32,370 --> 01:54:29,380
at the Egyptian theater which means I'm

2408
01:54:35,399 --> 01:54:32,380
going to send my family out and yeah

2409
01:54:38,130 --> 01:54:35,409
well you can meet my my little brothers

2410
01:54:40,800 --> 01:54:38,140
and and maybe my mom will go but we've

2411
01:54:43,740 --> 01:54:40,810
got a Michigan here Ohio Pennsylvania

2412
01:54:46,500 --> 01:54:43,750
Connecticut again back in Pennsylvania

2413
01:54:49,470 --> 01:54:46,510
New Jersey New Jersey Virginia North

2414
01:54:52,350 --> 01:54:49,480
Carolina Florida Alabama Tennessee and

2415
01:54:55,110 --> 01:54:52,360
of course so you've got like five stops

2416
01:54:59,520 --> 01:54:55,120
in the great state of Texas are you guys

2417
01:55:02,880 --> 01:54:59,530
going to add more dates we have I think

2418
01:55:04,890 --> 01:55:02,890
there's two more that are coming there

2419
01:55:06,390 --> 01:55:04,900
you know I don't want to stay with you

2420
01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:06,400
are right now because if something falls

2421
01:55:11,340 --> 01:55:08,890
through then I'll be the guy that went

2422
01:55:13,610 --> 01:55:11,350
boohoo but we are I just say we're

2423
01:55:16,110 --> 01:55:13,620
working on the Nevada date right now and

2424
01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:16,120
we're working on another California date

2425
01:55:19,770 --> 01:55:18,010
yeah this is Apple watch the dates that

2426
01:55:22,050 --> 01:55:19,780
are up I would also like to announce

2427
01:55:24,810 --> 01:55:22,060
super excited about this we are

2428
01:55:26,370 --> 01:55:24,820
officially going back to Australia in

2429
01:55:29,370 --> 01:55:26,380
October

2430
01:55:32,820 --> 01:55:29,380
we'll have the actual dates here very

2431
01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:32,830
soon but we did receive a formal formal

2432
01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:36,010
formal offer to bring us over including

2433
01:55:40,530 --> 01:55:38,890
a date in Auckland New Zealand so that's

2434
01:55:43,140 --> 01:55:40,540
going to happen in late October

2435
01:55:45,930 --> 01:55:43,150
so lots going on right now lots going on

2436
01:55:47,100 --> 01:55:45,940
little sterno face so are you guys doing

2437
01:55:50,580 --> 01:55:47,110
this we're going to hit a break here in

2438
01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:50,590
two minutes I got like a tour bus how

2439
01:55:55,169 --> 01:55:52,810
are you doing this this is a rock tour

2440
01:55:58,110 --> 01:55:55,179
man this is oh yes sir no you have a

2441
01:56:00,380 --> 01:55:58,120
44-foot freeze those two the same way

2442
01:56:02,610 --> 01:56:00,390
about talking about hands do it yeah

2443
01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:02,620
same way better

2444
01:56:08,209 --> 01:56:04,810
man I'm full-on jealous man it sounds

2445
01:56:11,879 --> 01:56:08,219
like an awful lot of fun and be the

2446
01:56:13,950 --> 01:56:11,889
reactions I've got about 60 seconds here

2447
01:56:15,030 --> 01:56:13,960
before we hit this break the reactions

2448
01:56:18,360 --> 01:56:15,040
from the audience

2449
01:56:21,630 --> 01:56:18,370
that one you know that is in the trailer

2450
01:56:25,620 --> 01:56:21,640
is that is that the moment is that is

2451
01:56:28,010 --> 01:56:25,630
that that is that the shot yeah it's

2452
01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:28,020
it's one of my favorite edits I've ever

2453
01:56:33,780 --> 01:56:31,690
done because I knew I had to present it

2454
01:56:35,100 --> 01:56:33,790
in a way where it's raw and you cut

2455
01:56:36,840 --> 01:56:35,110
everything when you have so much into

2456
01:56:41,310 --> 01:56:36,850
raw footage but there's a very creative

2457
01:56:44,070 --> 01:56:41,320
way I got to that and yeah you thought

2458
01:56:47,220 --> 01:56:44,080
yeah people swallow their Adam's apple

2459
01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:47,230
look yeah and if you know what you're

2460
01:56:51,570 --> 01:56:48,490
doing you're doing the right build up

2461
01:56:53,040 --> 01:56:51,580
your editing correctly and so forth and

2462
01:56:56,520 --> 01:56:53,050
you're going to hit them at the right

2463
01:56:59,100 --> 01:56:56,530
moment but you can tell you know and

2464
01:57:01,080 --> 01:56:59,110
like I said today people know right from

2465
01:57:02,760 --> 01:57:01,090
wrong and it's it's a it's a pretty

2466
01:57:03,990 --> 01:57:02,770
stunning moment in the trailer let's

2467
01:57:06,270 --> 01:57:04,000
take a break right here our guest

2468
01:57:08,640 --> 01:57:06,280
tonight Chad Gaelic that when we come

2469
01:57:11,070 --> 01:57:08,650
back I'm going to ask all the questions

2470
01:57:14,670 --> 01:57:11,080
I need to know do you go stunt your own

2471
01:57:16,170 --> 01:57:14,680
house that's the first thing and we're

2472
01:57:18,030 --> 01:57:16,180
going to go through all of that next

2473
01:57:22,270 --> 01:57:18,040
we'll be right back with Chad Kay like

2474
01:57:32,030 --> 01:57:25,040
- Rob Halford a mental guard on Jimmy

2475
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2518
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data or Wi-Fi available you can still

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by just calling six oh five five six two

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five six two four four eight two you can

2527
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listen to me Jimmy Church on any phone

2528
01:59:54,160 --> 01:59:45,560
anytime anywhere Gobekli Tepe

2529
02:00:00,590 --> 01:59:56,510
you want to know a secret

2530
02:00:03,530 --> 02:00:00,600
I love ponies I really love ponies I'm

2531
02:00:08,060 --> 02:00:03,540
serious I couldn't stay sane without

2532
02:00:14,480 --> 02:00:08,070
poor mr. Bush why fade to black because

2533
02:00:15,380 --> 02:00:14,490
you never got that pony damn this is

2534
02:00:17,300 --> 02:00:15,390
fade to black

2535
02:00:20,990 --> 02:00:17,310
with Jimmy Church on the game changer

2536
02:00:23,380 --> 02:00:21,000
radio network and kgr a the global radio

2537
02:00:34,530 --> 02:00:23,390
alliance

2538
02:00:39,310 --> 02:00:37,149
all right welcome back fade to black

2539
02:00:40,800 --> 02:00:39,320
I'm your host Jimmy Church email Jimmy

2540
02:00:43,899 --> 02:00:40,810
and Jimmy Church radio.com

2541
02:00:46,990 --> 02:00:43,909
follow me on Twitter at JDI you can

2542
02:00:51,820 --> 02:00:47,000
follow Chad at agh Chad Kaelyn very

2543
02:00:55,540 --> 02:00:51,830
simple all on Twitter and Chatta but a

2544
02:00:58,750 --> 02:00:55,550
couple of things really quick and let's

2545
02:01:01,870 --> 02:00:58,760
see here the question is do you think

2546
02:01:04,570 --> 02:01:01,880
that sir no face and this is from do sky

2547
02:01:09,600 --> 02:01:04,580
do you think that sir no face is aware

2548
02:01:15,700 --> 02:01:12,610
really quickly before I answer that

2549
02:01:17,800 --> 02:01:15,710
make sure you remind me to tell you the

2550
02:01:19,450 --> 02:01:17,810
rest of the greenhand story before we go

2551
02:01:21,700 --> 02:01:19,460
we forgot about that I don't lose that

2552
02:01:24,939 --> 02:01:21,710
yeah I won't come back to that do I

2553
02:01:28,300 --> 02:01:24,949
think that sir no face is aware that

2554
02:01:31,510 --> 02:01:28,310
it's being filmed very aware absolutely

2555
02:01:34,180 --> 02:01:31,520
it was it was I do not believe in any

2556
02:01:38,800 --> 02:01:34,190
capacity that it was an accident at all

2557
02:01:40,600 --> 02:01:38,810
and Oh Marc from Australia just chimed

2558
02:01:46,660 --> 02:01:40,610
in and said the state government is

2559
02:01:48,990 --> 02:01:46,670
incompetent so there you go Oh like

2560
02:01:52,270 --> 02:01:49,000
similar to another country Ellen yeah

2561
02:01:56,919 --> 02:01:52,280
yeah here we go yeah you will be stopped

2562
02:02:02,919 --> 02:01:56,929
at customs now for sure this is this is

2563
02:02:05,649 --> 02:02:02,929
the thing when it comes to ghost hunting

2564
02:02:07,270 --> 02:02:05,659
shows now you've got everybody sitting

2565
02:02:08,649 --> 02:02:07,280
around our house going you know I can do

2566
02:02:11,470 --> 02:02:08,659
that and I'm going to do able to do my

2567
02:02:13,479 --> 02:02:11,480
house and they go the local electronic

2568
02:02:15,580 --> 02:02:13,489
store they buy a digital recorder they

2569
02:02:18,010 --> 02:02:15,590
buy a video camera they get a Ouija

2570
02:02:19,899 --> 02:02:18,020
board and they're walking around their

2571
02:02:22,570 --> 02:02:19,909
house throwing salt over their shoulder

2572
02:02:23,140 --> 02:02:22,580
and and yelling stuff out is that a good

2573
02:02:28,270 --> 02:02:23,150
idea

2574
02:02:31,810 --> 02:02:28,280
oh you know and I've never been one to

2575
02:02:34,629 --> 02:02:31,820
like tell people what they should or

2576
02:02:38,169 --> 02:02:34,639
shouldn't do with their lives I guess it

2577
02:02:39,850 --> 02:02:38,179
comes down to I think with anything you

2578
02:02:42,459 --> 02:02:39,860
do go setting or not you got to ask

2579
02:02:44,560 --> 02:02:42,469
yourself what is your motivation if

2580
02:02:45,560 --> 02:02:44,570
someone's doing it because it's a hip

2581
02:02:47,569 --> 02:02:45,570
thing to do

2582
02:02:52,040 --> 02:02:47,579
just impress somebody or the try need a

2583
02:02:56,510 --> 02:02:52,050
TV show or you know probably not you

2584
02:02:58,370 --> 02:02:56,520
know the best intentions thing if you

2585
02:03:00,970 --> 02:02:58,380
know they are unaware of what they're

2586
02:03:03,700 --> 02:03:00,980
playing with from a spiritual standpoint

2587
02:03:06,950 --> 02:03:03,710
could be not the best thing either

2588
02:03:11,450 --> 02:03:06,960
believe it or not for somebody that's

2589
02:03:16,879 --> 02:03:11,460
not overtly religious you know I am

2590
02:03:19,810 --> 02:03:16,889
spiritual but I I do strongly urge

2591
02:03:22,160 --> 02:03:19,820
people not to play around we do boards I

2592
02:03:24,830 --> 02:03:22,170
just been involved in too many negative

2593
02:03:28,030 --> 02:03:24,840
cases that man you know ninety percent

2594
02:03:30,379 --> 02:03:28,040
of time damn Ouija boards there and

2595
02:03:32,180 --> 02:03:30,389
someone's messing around with it and I

2596
02:03:34,760 --> 02:03:32,190
think you know it's one of those things

2597
02:03:36,649 --> 02:03:34,770
where you're you know it's not even the

2598
02:03:38,720 --> 02:03:36,659
board it's what you're doing with it I

2599
02:03:41,569 --> 02:03:38,730
mean it could be a Ouija banana or Ouija

2600
02:03:45,319 --> 02:03:41,579
you know whatever it's something you're

2601
02:03:47,060 --> 02:03:45,329
using to say use you know use my body as

2602
02:03:49,220 --> 02:03:47,070
a vessel you'll speak to me take take

2603
02:03:52,669 --> 02:03:49,230
over the one thing that is my greatest

2604
02:03:56,319 --> 02:03:52,679
gift which is free will right and that

2605
02:03:58,520 --> 02:03:56,329
is it's when bad things happen and so

2606
02:04:00,350 --> 02:03:58,530
yeah I think the dinner thing that you

2607
02:04:02,120 --> 02:04:00,360
do it you know just you know ask

2608
02:04:05,750 --> 02:04:02,130
yourself what is your intention you know

2609
02:04:08,419 --> 02:04:05,760
what is driving that act whatever it may

2610
02:04:14,359 --> 02:04:08,429
be so what what's uh what's a good

2611
02:04:15,950 --> 02:04:14,369
starter kit for that that that ghost

2612
02:04:18,649 --> 02:04:15,960
hunter that wants to go and do things

2613
02:04:21,669 --> 02:04:18,659
what would you advise them to go in and

2614
02:04:24,649 --> 02:04:21,679
and start to put a kid together with

2615
02:04:28,700 --> 02:04:24,659
Tommy a way recorder it's cheapest

2616
02:04:33,430 --> 02:04:28,710
easiest thing and EVPs are fun you know

2617
02:04:36,260 --> 02:04:33,440
you could you could definitely you know

2618
02:04:41,180 --> 02:04:36,270
hear things capture things you'd be some

2619
02:04:44,149 --> 02:04:41,190
EVP phenomenon is very real and can be

2620
02:04:46,280 --> 02:04:44,159
captured a lot of places outside of that

2621
02:04:48,919 --> 02:04:46,290
yeah just for standard HD camera I mean

2622
02:04:52,220 --> 02:04:48,929
I'm very old-school in the sense that I

2623
02:04:56,189 --> 02:04:52,230
don't you know when I was ghost hunting

2624
02:04:58,169 --> 02:04:56,199
I wouldn't use the ML meters or k2 Zoar

2625
02:05:00,090 --> 02:04:58,179
they're kind of what we call the

2626
02:05:02,490 --> 02:05:00,100
electrician tool you know the tool is

2627
02:05:04,410 --> 02:05:02,500
ago an electrician errs belt all those

2628
02:05:06,600 --> 02:05:04,420
little buzzy lights and stuff because I

2629
02:05:10,290 --> 02:05:06,610
don't know what that means to me I mean

2630
02:05:12,900 --> 02:05:10,300
a light buzzing or turning on you know

2631
02:05:14,459 --> 02:05:12,910
could mean someone started the microwave

2632
02:05:16,650 --> 02:05:14,469
next door I don't know what you know AI

2633
02:05:18,750 --> 02:05:16,660
don't know what that means but if I

2634
02:05:22,709 --> 02:05:18,760
could see it or if I could hear it and

2635
02:05:24,660 --> 02:05:22,719
it's visible or audible and I could

2636
02:05:26,430 --> 02:05:24,670
clearly make it out and there's an

2637
02:05:28,470 --> 02:05:26,440
intelligent response oh it's time to

2638
02:05:30,870 --> 02:05:28,480
make sense in the context of the

2639
02:05:32,729 --> 02:05:30,880
investigation we're in that and you know

2640
02:05:35,430 --> 02:05:32,739
that I'm interested and it doesn't take

2641
02:05:38,459 --> 02:05:35,440
anything more than a camera or weight

2642
02:05:42,570 --> 02:05:38,469
recorder to to be in business why why is

2643
02:05:45,240 --> 02:05:42,580
it that digital recorders a wave

2644
02:05:48,660 --> 02:05:45,250
recorder a digital recorder is just so

2645
02:05:52,500 --> 02:05:48,670
successful is it because these these

2646
02:05:54,020 --> 02:05:52,510
apparitions or the spirits are you know

2647
02:05:55,680 --> 02:05:54,030
are they electronic are they

2648
02:05:58,680 --> 02:05:55,690
electromagnetic and they're able to

2649
02:06:01,200 --> 02:05:58,690
infest or affect a digital recorder in a

2650
02:06:03,180 --> 02:06:01,210
way that normally wouldn't happen well I

2651
02:06:06,959 --> 02:06:03,190
think our bombing it's a fact that our

2652
02:06:09,990 --> 02:06:06,969
bodies are electric you know when when

2653
02:06:11,910 --> 02:06:10,000
someone has an epileptic seizure I mean

2654
02:06:13,979 --> 02:06:11,920
they're quite literally having an

2655
02:06:17,040 --> 02:06:13,989
electronic storm in their brain

2656
02:06:18,900 --> 02:06:17,050
electrical storm in the brain I mean

2657
02:06:22,260 --> 02:06:18,910
think about this I mean we walk around

2658
02:06:23,130 --> 02:06:22,270
and our body core temperature is 98.6

2659
02:06:26,400 --> 02:06:23,140
degrees

2660
02:06:27,900 --> 02:06:26,410
why what's heating it you know

2661
02:06:29,459 --> 02:06:27,910
everything else in the world remains a

2662
02:06:33,240 --> 02:06:29,469
certain temperature because it's heated

2663
02:06:34,919 --> 02:06:33,250
or it is cooled something externally

2664
02:06:38,610 --> 02:06:34,929
affects it but something about our

2665
02:06:40,650 --> 02:06:38,620
bodies allows it to remain at a core

2666
02:06:42,479 --> 02:06:40,660
temperature well part of that answer is

2667
02:06:45,360 --> 02:06:42,489
that there is an electrical current

2668
02:06:48,870 --> 02:06:45,370
that's around us so I think you know

2669
02:06:51,840 --> 02:06:48,880
part of us as beams and you know is

2670
02:06:55,110 --> 02:06:51,850
electrical and I think you know items

2671
02:06:57,060 --> 02:06:55,120
that are you know right have electricity

2672
02:06:59,580 --> 02:06:57,070
running through them and our electrical

2673
02:07:00,900 --> 02:06:59,590
I think can be manipulated to a certain

2674
02:07:04,710 --> 02:07:00,910
degree

2675
02:07:06,540 --> 02:07:04,720
by the spiritual being whatever that may

2676
02:07:09,810 --> 02:07:06,550
be and there's many many examples of

2677
02:07:12,390 --> 02:07:09,820
this I mean this is you know from voices

2678
02:07:15,300 --> 02:07:12,400
being heard I was just reading a book

2679
02:07:17,640 --> 02:07:15,310
recently about a case where a husband

2680
02:07:19,860 --> 02:07:17,650
had passed away and literally left his

2681
02:07:23,490 --> 02:07:19,870
wife a message on their answering

2682
02:07:25,050 --> 02:07:23,500
machine from the grave which is pretty

2683
02:07:29,100 --> 02:07:25,060
spectacular

2684
02:07:31,410 --> 02:07:29,110
so yeah I just think it's a and this is

2685
02:07:32,880 --> 02:07:31,420
pure guesswork right I mean I would know

2686
02:07:36,360 --> 02:07:32,890
the definitive answer but my guess would

2687
02:07:38,610 --> 02:07:36,370
be that we are electrical beings so we

2688
02:07:41,100 --> 02:07:38,620
can manipulate things that are in fact

2689
02:07:45,840 --> 02:07:41,110
electrical what do you think is actually

2690
02:07:48,260 --> 02:07:45,850
going on are we looking at you know is

2691
02:07:51,840 --> 02:07:48,270
this an interdimensional thing is this

2692
02:07:56,670 --> 02:07:51,850
deceased relatives and the reason why I

2693
02:08:01,770 --> 02:07:56,680
asked that why don't we ever see a ghost

2694
02:08:05,370 --> 02:08:01,780
of a caveman right a Neanderthal because

2695
02:08:08,310 --> 02:08:05,380
they died in the past you know why why

2696
02:08:10,560 --> 02:08:08,320
why is that you know so are these

2697
02:08:13,050 --> 02:08:10,570
reincarnate are they are these people

2698
02:08:15,740 --> 02:08:13,060
that have died recently you know what

2699
02:08:19,590 --> 02:08:15,750
what is what is actually going on I

2700
02:08:22,230 --> 02:08:19,600
think we see what we want to see and

2701
02:08:25,170 --> 02:08:22,240
I'll give you what I mean by that is if

2702
02:08:27,840 --> 02:08:25,180
you've ever bought a new car suddenly

2703
02:08:30,870 --> 02:08:27,850
you will notice everybody who's driving

2704
02:08:32,370 --> 02:08:30,880
the same cars you right it'll take it

2705
02:08:34,560 --> 02:08:32,380
out like you'll be a loser that's the

2706
02:08:36,420 --> 02:08:34,570
car driving to see it because now that's

2707
02:08:37,830 --> 02:08:36,430
important to you because you about that

2708
02:08:41,040 --> 02:08:37,840
vehicle of vehicles important new so now

2709
02:08:43,170 --> 02:08:41,050
your mind season picks up on it I think

2710
02:08:46,110 --> 02:08:43,180
when someone is ghost hunting or they're

2711
02:08:48,360 --> 02:08:46,120
spiritually seeking out contact with the

2712
02:08:50,550 --> 02:08:48,370
ghost they have a predetermined kind of

2713
02:08:53,640 --> 02:08:50,560
thought as to what that thing is going

2714
02:08:56,430 --> 02:08:53,650
to be so they're going to pick up things

2715
02:08:59,520 --> 02:08:56,440
that you know kind of fit that mold of

2716
02:09:01,860 --> 02:08:59,530
what their their mind wants to see I

2717
02:09:03,420 --> 02:09:01,870
don't think that there aren't ghosts of

2718
02:09:05,700 --> 02:09:03,430
cavemen I don't think that there aren't

2719
02:09:08,400 --> 02:09:05,710
ghosts of things like that I think that

2720
02:09:11,280 --> 02:09:08,410
in our daily routine you know we don't

2721
02:09:14,439 --> 02:09:11,290
know we don't look for those things you

2722
02:09:17,799 --> 02:09:14,449
know for example I drove home today

2723
02:09:20,979 --> 02:09:17,809
from the place I was at 12 miles away

2724
02:09:23,410 --> 02:09:20,989
right now when I was driving home I

2725
02:09:25,330 --> 02:09:23,420
drove past all kinds of people in the

2726
02:09:27,100 --> 02:09:25,340
cars I drove as people that were on the

2727
02:09:30,310 --> 02:09:27,110
street I drove past people that were

2728
02:09:31,419 --> 02:09:30,320
walking on you know a walkway and I

2729
02:09:33,759 --> 02:09:31,429
couldn't tell you what any of them look

2730
02:09:35,709 --> 02:09:33,769
like I don't know

2731
02:09:38,680 --> 02:09:35,719
rhino st. I wasn't paying attention toes

2732
02:09:40,479 --> 02:09:38,690
right right so that caveman goes could

2733
02:09:43,000 --> 02:09:40,489
went running through the park dog park I

2734
02:09:45,430 --> 02:09:43,010
witness on right right you know I mean

2735
02:09:47,979 --> 02:09:45,440
it's just like yeah I mean our minds

2736
02:09:51,310 --> 02:09:47,989
without any crazy ability to get rid of

2737
02:09:54,160 --> 02:09:51,320
anything that's not important to us very

2738
02:09:56,830 --> 02:09:54,170
interesting because you know billions

2739
02:09:57,549 --> 02:09:56,840
and billions and billions of PS not like

2740
02:10:00,279 --> 02:09:57,559
Carl Sagan

2741
02:10:02,580 --> 02:10:00,289
have died right there must be just

2742
02:10:05,770 --> 02:10:02,590
things walking around all over the place

2743
02:10:07,839 --> 02:10:05,780
from every aspect of civilization going

2744
02:10:11,259 --> 02:10:07,849
back you know a hundred thousand two

2745
02:10:14,169 --> 02:10:11,269
hundred thousand years but yet we we see

2746
02:10:17,259 --> 02:10:14,179
modern ghosts whether it's you know the

2747
02:10:19,839 --> 02:10:17,269
Civil War World War two or so had that

2748
02:10:22,629 --> 02:10:19,849
passed away last week it's still in a

2749
02:10:26,020 --> 02:10:22,639
modern context but right you know where

2750
02:10:28,270 --> 02:10:26,030
where's the ghost of a dinosaur right I

2751
02:10:31,089 --> 02:10:28,280
mean baby I'm sure what one of the first

2752
02:10:33,459 --> 02:10:31,099
questions I asked Craig I said Craig

2753
02:10:37,919 --> 02:10:33,469
when I go to Australia like do you

2754
02:10:41,469 --> 02:10:37,929
injure your your EVPs have accents I

2755
02:10:43,449 --> 02:10:41,479
feel like I can tell you know what I

2756
02:10:47,080 --> 02:10:43,459
mean yes and he's like come to think

2757
02:10:48,850 --> 02:10:47,090
about it bro they do like I was cool you

2758
02:10:50,469 --> 02:10:48,860
know I'm like yeah cuz yeah I wondered

2759
02:10:52,120 --> 02:10:50,479
that too if I go down to Australia I am

2760
02:10:55,000 --> 02:10:52,130
I going to get EVPs with Australian

2761
02:10:58,479 --> 02:10:55,010
accents you know and he said that they

2762
02:11:00,699 --> 02:10:58,489
did they had accents so yeah you know I

2763
02:11:02,049 --> 02:11:00,709
think I really think it's about what

2764
02:11:03,040 --> 02:11:02,059
we're paying attention was looking for

2765
02:11:05,979 --> 02:11:03,050
but yeah I think those are good

2766
02:11:07,839 --> 02:11:05,989
questions uh you know are there ghosts

2767
02:11:10,540 --> 02:11:07,849
of these things actually around and we

2768
02:11:12,759 --> 02:11:10,550
just not seeing them as kind of like you

2769
02:11:15,219 --> 02:11:12,769
have 400 a day I know plenty of guys of

2770
02:11:17,859 --> 02:11:15,229
you have 400 like man once I started UFO

2771
02:11:19,359 --> 02:11:17,869
hunting it was amazing how many things I

2772
02:11:22,390 --> 02:11:19,369
saw in the sky and how many things I

2773
02:11:24,189 --> 02:11:22,400
filmed right and and what don't at me is

2774
02:11:25,020 --> 02:11:24,199
like you know I'll be outside all day

2775
02:11:27,270 --> 02:11:25,030
long

2776
02:11:30,240 --> 02:11:27,280
walk on how often do I look up in the

2777
02:11:32,399 --> 02:11:30,250
sky very ever yeah I know you know

2778
02:11:34,109 --> 02:11:32,409
anything like think should be flying

2779
02:11:35,819 --> 02:11:34,119
around all over the place man yes I

2780
02:11:38,100 --> 02:11:35,829
wouldn't know you know I mean again I'm

2781
02:11:40,140 --> 02:11:38,110
in the world you know if you go outside

2782
02:11:43,350 --> 02:11:40,150
with yeah you go outside with night

2783
02:11:46,649 --> 02:11:43,360
vision and yeah at night and look up at

2784
02:11:50,160 --> 02:11:46,659
the sky you're a changed person that's

2785
02:11:51,930 --> 02:11:50,170
it RJ you will walk around after that I

2786
02:11:53,910 --> 02:11:51,940
promise you I don't know if you've ever

2787
02:11:55,770 --> 02:11:53,920
done this but you go and you watch and

2788
02:11:58,919 --> 02:11:55,780
you see what's going on with night

2789
02:12:00,510 --> 02:11:58,929
vision and after that you don't need

2790
02:12:02,129 --> 02:12:00,520
night vision you'll just be walking down

2791
02:12:04,529 --> 02:12:02,139
the street at night you're going to look

2792
02:12:07,560 --> 02:12:04,539
you're one hand I've been to be a city

2793
02:12:10,740 --> 02:12:07,570
ranch up in the USO and Shep and Trout

2794
02:12:12,419 --> 02:12:10,750
Lake and I watched the craziest things

2795
02:12:15,029 --> 02:12:12,429
in the world we had night vision and

2796
02:12:17,160 --> 02:12:15,039
night lasers and yeah I totally agree

2797
02:12:18,930 --> 02:12:17,170
with you yes so much going on that sky

2798
02:12:20,689 --> 02:12:18,940
it's crazy I can't believe your thought

2799
02:12:25,200 --> 02:12:20,699
of peace Eddie we're going to be there

2800
02:12:27,930 --> 02:12:25,210
in two weeks okay thank you haven't

2801
02:12:31,049 --> 02:12:27,940
thanked oh yeah Michael I'm speaking up

2802
02:12:34,169 --> 02:12:31,059
there for two nights over the July 4th

2803
02:12:36,750 --> 02:12:34,179
weekend for the conference and I can't

2804
02:12:39,419 --> 02:12:36,760
wait man that's a bubbly that's a bucket

2805
02:12:42,180 --> 02:12:39,429
list for me well you're going to have a

2806
02:12:46,500 --> 02:12:42,190
blast if there is more stuff in that you

2807
02:12:47,189 --> 02:12:46,510
can yeah you can yeah everything you

2808
02:12:49,979 --> 02:12:47,199
think of it

2809
02:12:50,549 --> 02:12:49,989
get ready it's even more you know it's

2810
02:12:53,419 --> 02:12:50,559
crazy

2811
02:12:57,060 --> 02:12:53,429
all right the green the green hand

2812
02:12:59,819 --> 02:12:57,070
storing hand so to rewind my sister the

2813
02:13:02,189 --> 02:12:59,829
first thing I was ever told about my

2814
02:13:03,930 --> 02:13:02,199
childhood on house as my three-year-old

2815
02:13:09,359 --> 02:13:03,940
little sister came in and said a green

2816
02:13:14,359 --> 02:13:09,369
hand tried to tuck me in so about three

2817
02:13:16,799 --> 02:13:14,369
years after that event happened my then

2818
02:13:19,560 --> 02:13:16,809
budding friendship with another kid in

2819
02:13:21,930 --> 02:13:19,570
prison is now my best friend my selling

2820
02:13:23,100 --> 02:13:21,940
partner all these years later he was

2821
02:13:24,930 --> 02:13:23,110
born and raised in prison where the

2822
02:13:26,760 --> 02:13:24,940
countin was and he had heard about you

2823
02:13:30,540 --> 02:13:26,770
know supposedly with our place was

2824
02:13:33,419 --> 02:13:30,550
haunted and he says to me says so yeah

2825
02:13:35,939 --> 02:13:33,429
you know did you know the family before

2826
02:13:38,459 --> 02:13:35,949
you I thought the place was haunted too

2827
02:13:40,290 --> 02:13:38,469
and I'm like yeah we heard

2828
02:13:43,020 --> 02:13:40,300
thought some thought and he goes yeah

2829
02:13:44,759 --> 02:13:43,030
there no there was there was two sisters

2830
02:13:46,529 --> 02:13:44,769
and the oldest one was really hot and I

2831
02:13:48,779 --> 02:13:46,539
was cornered trying to get you know to

2832
02:13:50,279 --> 02:13:48,789
get up and go on a date with her and she

2833
02:13:51,899 --> 02:13:50,289
started saying that her younger sister

2834
02:13:54,479 --> 02:13:51,909
was really scared and I'm like I'm

2835
02:13:57,060 --> 02:13:54,489
really wine and she said that she was

2836
02:14:00,000 --> 02:13:57,070
going to sleep at a green hand came out

2837
02:14:02,879 --> 02:14:00,010
of the wall and tried to choke her and I

2838
02:14:04,950 --> 02:14:02,889
about fell over because I had never told

2839
02:14:08,100 --> 02:14:04,960
Justin that story I hadn't told anybody

2840
02:14:10,200 --> 02:14:08,110
that story and I thought back to what my

2841
02:14:13,200 --> 02:14:10,210
sister was saying that she said a green

2842
02:14:15,810 --> 02:14:13,210
hand tried to tuck me in well in her

2843
02:14:17,669 --> 02:14:15,820
sweet nature she was thinking that the

2844
02:14:19,770 --> 02:14:17,679
hand that was reaching for her throat

2845
02:14:23,100 --> 02:14:19,780
was reaching for her blanket to try to

2846
02:14:24,540 --> 02:14:23,110
tuck her in and which made me wonder

2847
02:14:26,640 --> 02:14:24,550
what would have happened had you stayed

2848
02:14:29,790 --> 02:14:26,650
a lawyer but then Justin without knowing

2849
02:14:32,069 --> 02:14:29,800
anything without knowing anything about

2850
02:14:35,370 --> 02:14:32,079
that story independently tells me got in

2851
02:14:39,089 --> 02:14:35,380
the same exact spot in the house to a

2852
02:14:41,189 --> 02:14:39,099
girl a similar age you know years before

2853
02:14:45,270 --> 02:14:41,199
he had already heard this story how's

2854
02:14:49,919 --> 02:14:45,280
your mom though how how how is your dad

2855
02:14:54,810 --> 02:14:49,929
today ah dad's doing pretty well

2856
02:14:57,540 --> 02:14:54,820
mom has a rough yeah a rough go but

2857
02:15:00,299 --> 02:14:57,550
they're you know they're Gosa getting by

2858
02:15:03,750 --> 02:15:00,309
you know I wanted well I'm asking

2859
02:15:09,120 --> 02:15:03,760
because of you know the possession

2860
02:15:11,640 --> 02:15:09,130
issues that were there we never we never

2861
02:15:13,680 --> 02:15:11,650
finished that part of the story and and

2862
02:15:16,410 --> 02:15:13,690
I think that the audience definitely

2863
02:15:19,799 --> 02:15:16,420
wants to to know what ended up

2864
02:15:23,339 --> 02:15:19,809
ultimately happening happened with her

2865
02:15:28,620 --> 02:15:23,349
uh well I'm still kind of ongoing it's a

2866
02:15:32,370 --> 02:15:28,630
you know the last I knew was that she is

2867
02:15:34,890 --> 02:15:32,380
going to medical counseling and also

2868
02:15:38,520 --> 02:15:34,900
marital counseling spiritual counseling

2869
02:15:44,009 --> 02:15:38,530
with clergy and kind of attacking it on

2870
02:15:46,529 --> 02:15:44,019
both ends and you know things were we're

2871
02:15:48,989 --> 02:15:46,539
getting better but it's a long road I

2872
02:15:49,710 --> 02:15:48,999
mean like 20 years to have something

2873
02:15:53,940 --> 02:15:49,720
remain

2874
02:15:56,490 --> 02:15:53,950
in and then be flush to the surface you

2875
02:16:00,360 --> 02:15:56,500
know it doesn't get fixed in a weekend

2876
02:16:02,250 --> 02:16:00,370
did it is the entity from the house just

2877
02:16:03,990 --> 02:16:02,260
stay with the family after you guys

2878
02:16:07,440 --> 02:16:04,000
moved out yeah

2879
02:16:08,910 --> 02:16:07,450
standing along yeah and and and your

2880
02:16:14,600 --> 02:16:08,920
father is going through these same

2881
02:16:17,850 --> 02:16:14,610
experiences right yes yeah he just he

2882
02:16:20,960 --> 02:16:17,860
you know he loves her and he doesn't

2883
02:16:26,250 --> 02:16:20,970
really know how to handle it except to

2884
02:16:29,790 --> 02:16:26,260
be with her yeah and yeah I'm Jen trying

2885
02:16:33,510 --> 02:16:29,800
to do his best to spiritually attack the

2886
02:16:37,680 --> 02:16:33,520
situation it so yeah it's a long long

2887
02:16:40,260 --> 02:16:37,690
road man is it possible that well first

2888
02:16:42,930 --> 02:16:40,270
off that a spirit or an entity once it

2889
02:16:44,820 --> 02:16:42,940
makes that attachment doesn't stay with

2890
02:16:47,310 --> 02:16:44,830
a house it goes with you if you decide

2891
02:16:51,240 --> 02:16:47,320
to move but what about objects in the

2892
02:16:53,790 --> 02:16:51,250
house you know doll I don't know about

2893
02:16:55,980 --> 02:16:53,800
objects you know with with CERN okay so

2894
02:16:57,450 --> 02:16:55,990
it was really interesting about that and

2895
02:17:00,470 --> 02:16:57,460
that nothing I'm trying to cross over

2896
02:17:04,200 --> 02:17:00,480
here but but an interesting question is

2897
02:17:08,360 --> 02:17:04,210
Craig talked about how at one point he

2898
02:17:11,670 --> 02:17:08,370
was having a conversation was heard and

2899
02:17:13,890 --> 02:17:11,680
answer was doing things like knocking to

2900
02:17:16,710 --> 02:17:13,900
say yes or no and Craig was looking out

2901
02:17:19,800 --> 02:17:16,720
the window he's saying this is what I

2902
02:17:21,840 --> 02:17:19,810
see this is what I see you know you look

2903
02:17:25,380 --> 02:17:21,850
at this window do you see this here do

2904
02:17:27,480 --> 02:17:25,390
you see this here and you know sir

2905
02:17:29,730 --> 02:17:27,490
described something completely different

2906
02:17:31,880 --> 02:17:29,740
than what Craig was seeing and learning

2907
02:17:33,990 --> 02:17:31,890
the numbers because when it comes to

2908
02:17:36,510 --> 02:17:34,000
objects I think what you're talking

2909
02:17:39,270 --> 02:17:36,520
about is ownership some belief systems

2910
02:17:44,910 --> 02:17:39,280
was changed over the course of time if

2911
02:17:47,940 --> 02:17:44,920
if you hand if you handed me a Catholic

2912
02:17:50,460 --> 02:17:47,950
st. Michael's medallion right and this

2913
02:17:53,250 --> 02:17:50,470
was in the Roman era that thing is

2914
02:17:57,890 --> 02:17:53,260
powerful that was holds a lot of beliefs

2915
02:18:00,630 --> 02:17:57,900
there's a lot of you know a lot of

2916
02:18:02,911 --> 02:18:00,640
actual use for that type of thing where

2917
02:18:05,071 --> 02:18:02,921
if you hand it to me years later

2918
02:18:06,810 --> 02:18:05,081
in this scenario if I'm not a Catholic I

2919
02:18:09,180 --> 02:18:06,820
don't believe in the Archangel like that

2920
02:18:12,451 --> 02:18:09,190
that that object doesn't mean anything

2921
02:18:14,791 --> 02:18:12,461
so certainly belief has a lot to do with

2922
02:18:16,791 --> 02:18:14,801
the power of objects and spirits and

2923
02:18:20,340 --> 02:18:16,801
different kinds of different time frames

2924
02:18:23,220 --> 02:18:20,350
I don't believe in our house there was

2925
02:18:25,951 --> 02:18:23,230
anything that was an object that

2926
02:18:28,260 --> 02:18:25,961
triggered anything because I believe

2927
02:18:30,241 --> 02:18:28,270
objects are just objects people place

2928
02:18:33,420 --> 02:18:30,251
belief in them and depending upon the

2929
02:18:35,190 --> 02:18:33,430
timeframe they exist those beliefs are

2930
02:18:38,720 --> 02:18:35,200
going to change and what those objects

2931
02:18:41,190 --> 02:18:38,730
are and I think most ghosts are

2932
02:18:42,451 --> 02:18:41,200
interdimensional anyways I think most of

2933
02:18:44,760 --> 02:18:42,461
the time you're not necessarily talking

2934
02:18:46,321 --> 02:18:44,770
about somebody that's dead as much as

2935
02:18:48,781 --> 02:18:46,331
you're talking about somebody that is

2936
02:18:53,100 --> 02:18:48,791
alive and an alternate time period or a

2937
02:18:58,951 --> 02:18:53,110
time frame you remember this mind do you

2938
02:19:02,670 --> 02:18:58,961
remember the film the ring if that's one

2939
02:19:04,531 --> 02:19:02,680
where the the video roles cut out of T

2940
02:19:06,210 --> 02:19:04,541
Adam but he okay and she goes walking to

2941
02:19:08,220 --> 02:19:06,220
the damn TV or whatever that is you

2942
02:19:11,281 --> 02:19:08,230
watch the videotape and you die in a

2943
02:19:13,350 --> 02:19:11,291
week or whatever yes it's what climate

2944
02:19:17,100 --> 02:19:13,360
says healing right right and so that

2945
02:19:20,190 --> 02:19:17,110
entity was attached to the videotape

2946
02:19:24,571 --> 02:19:20,200
right right right there are no faces now

2947
02:19:26,430 --> 02:19:24,581
in a movie oh good you're an okay right

2948
02:19:30,150 --> 02:19:26,440
right are you with me on this could

2949
02:19:34,470 --> 02:19:30,160
cirno face now travel from Australia to

2950
02:19:39,180 --> 02:19:34,480
Austin Texas well I don't believe they

2951
02:19:41,310 --> 02:19:39,190
live in a dimension with walls of bears

2952
02:19:47,640 --> 02:19:41,320
I think sir no face could blink its eyes

2953
02:19:50,850 --> 02:19:47,650
and be in Austin Texas that interesting

2954
02:19:53,640 --> 02:19:50,860
and I captured him on film so I will say

2955
02:19:55,201 --> 02:19:53,650
it is powerful when you see it but I

2956
02:19:57,480 --> 02:19:55,211
don't know if that's just because it's

2957
02:20:02,581 --> 02:19:57,490
just visually as good as it is and as

2958
02:20:04,861 --> 02:20:02,591
kind of shocking as it is I don't know

2959
02:20:09,541 --> 02:20:04,871
you know I don't know I my gut you know

2960
02:20:11,551 --> 02:20:09,551
um tells me that these things or where

2961
02:20:13,381 --> 02:20:11,561
they want to be whenever I don't have

2962
02:20:16,010 --> 02:20:13,391
any proof to say that they can be

2963
02:20:18,229 --> 02:20:16,020
embedded into things

2964
02:20:20,950 --> 02:20:18,239
you know who knows I guess I said that's

2965
02:20:25,729 --> 02:20:20,960
part of the journey in the mystery right

2966
02:20:28,790 --> 02:20:25,739
so absolutely I'm going to hit you with

2967
02:20:32,450 --> 02:20:28,800
a few quick questions rapid-fire most

2968
02:20:37,099 --> 02:20:32,460
haunted city in America and most haunted

2969
02:20:39,710 --> 02:20:37,109
city in America I would have to say who

2970
02:20:42,260 --> 02:20:39,720
the who now God really quickly I guess

2971
02:20:45,670 --> 02:20:42,270
Salem ah I thought you were going to go

2972
02:20:50,330 --> 02:20:45,680
Asheville ok Salem close enough yeah

2973
02:20:55,189 --> 02:20:50,340
what's what is more haunted hospitals

2974
02:20:58,130 --> 02:20:55,199
schools or prisons Oh hostels is oh

2975
02:20:59,660 --> 02:20:58,140
really yeah I'm saying I'll take a

2976
02:21:01,700 --> 02:20:59,670
hospital over a school or physically

2977
02:21:07,700 --> 02:21:01,710
then prisons are up there but hospitals

2978
02:21:11,120 --> 02:21:07,710
I think a farm or both field Isles

2979
02:21:14,540 --> 02:21:11,130
yeah but the prisons man that's some

2980
02:21:17,780 --> 02:21:14,550
nasty stuff going down there to the

2981
02:21:19,429 --> 02:21:17,790
peasants are yeah but if you ask me I

2982
02:21:21,110 --> 02:21:19,439
guess you define a hospital Ike because

2983
02:21:24,080 --> 02:21:21,120
I think hospital I think like mental

2984
02:21:26,150 --> 02:21:24,090
hospital I think like you know brutal

2985
02:21:29,059 --> 02:21:26,160
like brutality and people tortures and

2986
02:21:32,500 --> 02:21:29,069
things like that it feels like you know

2987
02:21:35,510 --> 02:21:32,510
a nice you know Mercy Hospital and no

2988
02:21:37,700 --> 02:21:35,520
but yeah that's probably debatable you

2989
02:21:41,330 --> 02:21:37,710
can probably pick and most plain as I've

2990
02:21:43,760 --> 02:21:41,340
been to a pretty awesome so best EVP

2991
02:21:48,710 --> 02:21:43,770
best EVP you've ever recorded

2992
02:21:51,019 --> 02:21:48,720
oh I it was funny it was actually

2993
02:21:54,860 --> 02:21:51,029
hilarious I and I still have it

2994
02:21:58,490 --> 02:21:54,870
somewhere basically I was in side the

2995
02:22:01,849 --> 02:21:58,500
house and I had my camera that was on

2996
02:22:05,030 --> 02:22:01,859
recording and I left my way recorder in

2997
02:22:06,080 --> 02:22:05,040
the car and I turn around I go I go god

2998
02:22:09,080 --> 02:22:06,090
bleep

2999
02:22:12,380 --> 02:22:09,090
I left my second where a recorder in the

3000
02:22:19,400 --> 02:22:12,390
car and the ATP went you dumb mother

3001
02:22:22,189 --> 02:22:19,410
bleep the EVP called me that Wow pretty

3002
02:22:24,320 --> 02:22:22,199
funny yeah I don't with them another B

3003
02:22:26,240 --> 02:22:24,330
yeah yeah that's that's nuts what's

3004
02:22:33,070 --> 02:22:26,250
scarier to you

3005
02:22:44,660 --> 02:22:42,920
scarier ghost of a child probably a

3006
02:22:48,381 --> 02:22:44,670
little creepier to me because a lot of

3007
02:22:52,270 --> 02:22:48,391
times that's fake you get a negative

3008
02:22:55,310 --> 02:22:52,280
spirit impersonating and I'm always

3009
02:22:59,301 --> 02:22:55,320
really hesitant when there's child

3010
02:23:01,060 --> 02:22:59,311
spirits reported to be in a place it

3011
02:23:05,450 --> 02:23:01,070
takes me a while to kind of buy into it

3012
02:23:07,280 --> 02:23:05,460
but I do like how active they are yeah

3013
02:23:09,381 --> 02:23:07,290
the child spray just cuz I don't trust

3014
02:23:14,150 --> 02:23:09,391
it as much as I do the other one yeah

3015
02:23:15,980 --> 02:23:14,160
and so they they do lie yeah and episode

3016
02:23:18,020 --> 02:23:15,990
yeah that's that's interesting and would

3017
02:23:20,900 --> 02:23:18,030
you call that a trickster thing or is it

3018
02:23:23,690 --> 02:23:20,910
because they are trying to get you

3019
02:23:26,091 --> 02:23:23,700
vulnerable and attached yeah I just a

3020
02:23:27,920 --> 02:23:26,101
trying to put your guard down right

3021
02:23:30,170 --> 02:23:27,930
you're like it's absolute it's just it's

3022
02:23:33,920 --> 02:23:30,180
just a child yeah it's all good and then

3023
02:23:35,360 --> 02:23:33,930
yeah I could do what I want yeah yeah

3024
02:23:37,730 --> 02:23:35,370
I'm always nervous when someone says

3025
02:23:39,261 --> 02:23:37,740
there's a report of a child spirit I've

3026
02:23:41,660 --> 02:23:39,271
got that sort of children are just

3027
02:23:43,850 --> 02:23:41,670
unpredictable and you just don't know

3028
02:23:46,131 --> 02:23:43,860
what they're going to do right right and

3029
02:23:48,591 --> 02:23:46,141
how do you again these are just quick

3030
02:23:50,570 --> 02:23:48,601
questions how do you because we're going

3031
02:23:53,450 --> 02:23:50,580
to be out of time here in four minutes

3032
02:23:58,881 --> 02:23:53,460
how do you know if it's a religious

3033
02:24:03,381 --> 02:23:58,891
thing or a non-religious activity that's

3034
02:24:05,210 --> 02:24:03,391
going on in regards to what well I mean

3035
02:24:09,320 --> 02:24:05,220
as activity in the house yeah as a

3036
02:24:11,120 --> 02:24:09,330
demonic or is it just a spirit well I

3037
02:24:14,690 --> 02:24:11,130
think the one thing about demonic I've

3038
02:24:17,120 --> 02:24:14,700
been on three for sure demonic cases the

3039
02:24:20,841 --> 02:24:17,130
level of intelligence of a demonic case

3040
02:24:24,170 --> 02:24:20,851
is incredible it will trick you in so

3041
02:24:25,280 --> 02:24:24,180
many ways like a new your next seven

3042
02:24:27,620 --> 02:24:25,290
steps

3043
02:24:31,120 --> 02:24:27,630
we're typical ghosts and mom and pop

3044
02:24:34,220 --> 02:24:31,130
type hauntings that we call our very

3045
02:24:37,341 --> 02:24:34,230
predictable in nature right right right

3046
02:24:38,991 --> 02:24:37,351
right and and how does somebody clear a

3047
02:24:44,031 --> 02:24:39,001
house

3048
02:24:47,541 --> 02:24:44,041
never done it I've never been involved

3049
02:24:50,421 --> 02:24:47,551
with one I've seen people do it but I'm

3050
02:24:53,121 --> 02:24:50,431
the wrong guy to give that advice

3051
02:24:54,711 --> 02:24:53,131
well I always hear you know salt

3052
02:24:58,850 --> 02:24:54,721
you know put salt around the perimeter

3053
02:25:01,131 --> 02:24:58,860
there burn sage you know yeah I've heard

3054
02:25:03,621 --> 02:25:01,141
all the same stuff I've never had to do

3055
02:25:04,781 --> 02:25:03,631
it in my house I I think protection

3056
02:25:08,111 --> 02:25:04,791
comes from within

3057
02:25:10,491 --> 02:25:08,121
for me it does you know there's just a

3058
02:25:12,081 --> 02:25:10,501
degree of beliefs that I have that I'll

3059
02:25:16,581 --> 02:25:12,091
be okay and if I don't feel like I will

3060
02:25:21,980 --> 02:25:16,591
be I don't go to that place so and the

3061
02:25:25,640 --> 02:25:21,990
last question what scares you ah ghosts

3062
02:25:29,691 --> 02:25:25,650
definitely don't scare me uh people's

3063
02:25:30,890 --> 02:25:29,701
can be pretty good people yeah you know

3064
02:25:33,651 --> 02:25:30,900
it's always made me really uncomfortable

3065
02:25:36,350 --> 02:25:33,661
I don't know why I guess I could put in

3066
02:25:38,631 --> 02:25:36,360
the category of scare and you know the

3067
02:25:41,930 --> 02:25:38,641
sounds whales make yes

3068
02:25:43,060 --> 02:25:41,940
you know does it go sounds oh my god

3069
02:25:45,680 --> 02:25:43,070
that creeps me out

3070
02:25:47,001 --> 02:25:45,690
excuse me I'm watching Star Trek there's

3071
02:25:49,220 --> 02:25:47,011
like two or three when they had the

3072
02:25:50,661 --> 02:25:49,230
whales yeah and I was so creeped out

3073
02:25:51,921 --> 02:25:50,671
once and I don't like that sound for

3074
02:25:54,831 --> 02:25:51,931
some reason it's a really uncomfortable

3075
02:25:56,390 --> 02:25:54,841
sound to me that scares me but

3076
02:25:58,611 --> 02:25:56,400
necessarily in the paranormal scares me

3077
02:26:01,071 --> 02:25:58,621
more yeah what scare you know what trips

3078
02:26:03,291 --> 02:26:01,081
me out I'll admit I'm a sucker for it

3079
02:26:07,581 --> 02:26:03,301
and is Ouija board

3080
02:26:10,881 --> 02:26:07,591
zoso videos on YouTube does every people

3081
02:26:14,211 --> 02:26:10,891
there are does everybody great because

3082
02:26:15,470 --> 02:26:14,221
everybody all right everybody I'll just

3083
02:26:19,161 --> 02:26:15,480
go ahead an ounce this Chad's going to

3084
02:26:21,801 --> 02:26:19,171
be on coast to coast with us in a looker

3085
02:26:23,180 --> 02:26:21,811
in about two weeks so look forward to

3086
02:26:25,341 --> 02:26:23,190
that Chad and we'll take this

3087
02:26:27,591 --> 02:26:25,351
conversation a little bit further but

3088
02:26:30,140 --> 02:26:27,601
until then wonderful conversation

3089
02:26:32,180 --> 02:26:30,150
tonight where can everybody get ahold of

3090
02:26:35,480 --> 02:26:32,190
you and if they have something that you

3091
02:26:37,671 --> 02:26:35,490
that they want checked out or a cool

3092
02:26:41,901 --> 02:26:37,681
location how would somebody get ahold of

3093
02:26:45,501 --> 02:26:41,911
you yeah I said earlier just to clarify

3094
02:26:48,560 --> 02:26:45,511
it's just at agh Chad just uh Twitter is

3095
02:26:52,320 --> 02:26:48,570
the easiest way or at agh chad or on

3096
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Facebook which is just facebook.com

3097
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kay look come out and see cirno face on

3098
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the tour that's a great way to a little

3099
02:27:03,470 --> 02:27:00,790
of me I'm there the whole night I'll be

3100
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3101
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3104
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I promise and yeah I can't wait for it

3105
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and Jimmy Thank You Man you gave me a

3106
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ton of time it's been a lot of fun yeah

3107
02:27:24,480 --> 02:27:22,930
absolutely Chad really looking forward

3108
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to it and we'll see a couple of weeks on

3109
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3110
02:27:30,240 --> 02:27:28,420
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3111
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that'll be the last date on the tour -

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so that means very well to celebrate

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what's over after party thank you so

3114
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much there you go

3115
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have a great night man Thanks better

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3195
02:32:08,690 --> 02:32:06,370
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3196
02:32:12,230 --> 02:32:08,700
Thank You Chad K look amazing

3197
02:32:14,300 --> 02:32:12,240
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3198
02:32:15,950 --> 02:32:14,310
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3199
02:32:16,519 --> 02:32:15,960
and all of the tour dates are right

3200
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3201
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and go and check it out and you know

3202
02:32:23,110 --> 02:32:21,000
should have gave away tickets I wasn't

3203
02:32:26,019 --> 02:32:23,120
even thinking about that but nonetheless

3204
02:32:31,840 --> 02:32:26,029
go check out the trailer sir no face.com

3205
02:32:34,700 --> 02:32:31,850
I'm looking here at this massive fire in

3206
02:32:36,950 --> 02:32:34,710
London with this high-rise building I'm

3207
02:32:42,380 --> 02:32:36,960
watching the video now I did get tweets

3208
02:32:43,940 --> 02:32:42,390
about this it's in West London man or

3209
02:32:45,650 --> 02:32:43,950
thoughts with the families and

3210
02:32:49,010 --> 02:32:45,660
everything I'm just hoping nobody is

3211
02:32:51,950 --> 02:32:49,020
stuck inside this blaze I haven't had a

3212
02:32:55,370 --> 02:32:51,960
chance to go and and check out the

3213
02:33:00,110 --> 02:32:55,380
details on this but that is absolutely

3214
02:33:04,940 --> 02:33:00,120
an unbelievable a sight on television

3215
02:33:09,469 --> 02:33:04,950
right now that is unreal as there are

3216
02:33:12,429 --> 02:33:09,479
thoughts pamphlet is man London UK whoo

3217
02:33:18,170 --> 02:33:12,439
man look at that I mean it's the entire

3218
02:33:22,400 --> 02:33:18,180
building from top to bottom that is 45

3219
02:33:26,510 --> 02:33:22,410
engines 200 firefighters West estate a

3220
02:33:27,170 --> 02:33:26,520
tower in North Kensington absolutely

3221
02:33:32,450 --> 02:33:27,180
incredible

3222
02:33:34,520 --> 02:33:32,460
okay there you go man I just

3223
02:33:36,440 --> 02:33:34,530
for everybody that's listening over the

3224
02:33:39,440 --> 02:33:36,450
UK our thoughts are always with you and

3225
02:33:40,940 --> 02:33:39,450
that is just absolutely intense

3226
02:33:44,330 --> 02:33:40,950
all right I've opened up the phone lines

3227
02:33:47,270 --> 02:33:44,340
three two three eight to five five zero

3228
02:33:50,590 --> 02:33:47,280
four five or three to three to seven

3229
02:33:59,660 --> 02:33:50,600
five nine nine six nine five are the

3230
02:34:01,370 --> 02:33:59,670
numbers and I have to say when you go

3231
02:34:04,969 --> 02:34:01,380
when you present something like this and

3232
02:34:09,860 --> 02:34:04,979
and I think chat is being very honest

3233
02:34:13,880 --> 02:34:09,870
about this today you know when I when

3234
02:34:16,730 --> 02:34:13,890
somebody sends me a video and and I look

3235
02:34:20,120 --> 02:34:16,740
at well ghost but you will fo vide I

3236
02:34:23,719 --> 02:34:20,130
mean some of it is done by some very

3237
02:34:28,330 --> 02:34:23,729
talented people right again a very

3238
02:34:31,310 --> 02:34:28,340
talented good CGI and and you know

3239
02:34:34,550 --> 02:34:31,320
99.99999% of everything is fake and it's

3240
02:34:39,020 --> 02:34:34,560
so easy to do there's probably I'm not

3241
02:34:41,900 --> 02:34:39,030
sure man but there's probably a a UFO

3242
02:34:46,640 --> 02:34:41,910
video software out there right it's just

3243
02:34:50,330 --> 02:34:46,650
covered and created yourself and and I

3244
02:34:53,570 --> 02:34:50,340
just know you know but an audiences

3245
02:34:56,060 --> 02:34:53,580
today are very very very savvy and if

3246
02:34:59,900 --> 02:34:56,070
you're going to go on tour and you are

3247
02:35:03,320 --> 02:34:59,910
going to say that this is it I've tried

3248
02:35:05,990 --> 02:35:03,330
to debunk it here's the video and you

3249
02:35:09,200 --> 02:35:06,000
you you better be bringing the goods

3250
02:35:13,400 --> 02:35:09,210
because everybody is savvy I have

3251
02:35:15,290 --> 02:35:13,410
matters like two maybe three years ago I

3252
02:35:19,910 --> 02:35:15,300
drove Rita

3253
02:35:25,330 --> 02:35:19,920
crazy I watched ghost videos for about a

3254
02:35:28,100 --> 02:35:25,340
month I mean I watched them all and

3255
02:35:32,540 --> 02:35:28,110
there's so many compilations videos best

3256
02:35:36,950 --> 02:35:32,550
10 best ghosts caught on film 10 million

3257
02:35:42,170 --> 02:35:36,960
views right there all over YouTube and

3258
02:35:45,210 --> 02:35:42,180
so I did I just went and and some of it

3259
02:35:50,670 --> 02:35:45,220
was really really fun to watch I

3260
02:35:56,849 --> 02:35:50,680
it was and then I went through man

3261
02:35:59,359 --> 02:35:56,859
what's his name uh creepypasta I did the

3262
02:36:02,790 --> 02:35:59,369
creepypasta thing listening to

3263
02:36:07,069 --> 02:36:02,800
creepypasta stories and that would fall

3264
02:36:10,410 --> 02:36:07,079
asleep to him listening to creepypasta

3265
02:36:12,149 --> 02:36:10,420
and I still do it you know and and so

3266
02:36:16,739 --> 02:36:12,159
people are entertained with this stuff

3267
02:36:18,029 --> 02:36:16,749
and they're very very very acclimated to

3268
02:36:19,739 --> 02:36:18,039
it today

3269
02:36:21,449 --> 02:36:19,749
so if you're going to do it you're going

3270
02:36:23,340 --> 02:36:21,459
to put this documentary together and

3271
02:36:25,439 --> 02:36:23,350
you're going to go on the road you

3272
02:36:27,239 --> 02:36:25,449
better bring the goods and I'm excited

3273
02:36:33,239 --> 02:36:27,249
about the film and I want to check it

3274
02:36:36,510 --> 02:36:33,249
out I talked to Chad it used my sphere

3275
02:36:39,420 --> 02:36:36,520
of influence to see the film and I could

3276
02:36:40,979 --> 02:36:39,430
not could not I have to wait to go and

3277
02:36:45,210 --> 02:36:40,989
see it live they've got everything

3278
02:36:49,469 --> 02:36:45,220
isolated on so it can't be hacked it's

3279
02:36:51,420 --> 02:36:49,479
sitting on isolated gapped computers and

3280
02:36:54,420 --> 02:36:51,430
that's it and that's how they're playing

3281
02:36:56,519 --> 02:36:54,430
it and I have to respect that so I have

3282
02:36:58,529 --> 02:36:56,529
only seen the trail I asked for

3283
02:37:00,779 --> 02:36:58,539
everything from Chad to as well and I

3284
02:37:03,779 --> 02:37:00,789
know he said Jimmy I want you to see it

3285
02:37:05,429 --> 02:37:03,789
I would but I can't and and I have to

3286
02:37:08,670 --> 02:37:05,439
respect that so I have to wait till

3287
02:37:11,069 --> 02:37:08,680
Anaheim before I can see anything and

3288
02:37:12,929 --> 02:37:11,079
with that let me turn a knob here and

3289
02:37:14,219 --> 02:37:12,939
hit a button let's go to the phones hi

3290
02:37:18,000 --> 02:37:14,229
you're live on fade to black who's

3291
02:37:21,899 --> 02:37:18,010
calling you're lying

3292
02:37:23,670 --> 02:37:21,909
yes you're live oh hi hi Jimmy I was

3293
02:37:27,090 --> 02:37:23,680
calling because uh you know just

3294
02:37:29,099 --> 02:37:27,100
listening to this with all the stories

3295
02:37:31,080 --> 02:37:29,109
on the ghost I've had quite a few

3296
02:37:33,660 --> 02:37:31,090
experiences and I don't know that I

3297
02:37:37,439 --> 02:37:33,670
actually want to see this film but based

3298
02:37:39,599 --> 02:37:37,449
on what I see you know it's what's

3299
02:37:43,170 --> 02:37:39,609
really creepy when it happens to you and

3300
02:37:46,739 --> 02:37:43,180
it's happened on multiple occasions for

3301
02:37:48,599 --> 02:37:46,749
me and you know I'm always here to

3302
02:37:52,889 --> 02:37:48,609
stalling right all right when it

3303
02:37:55,800 --> 02:37:52,899
actually happens to you you just this

3304
02:37:57,600 --> 02:37:55,810
chill comes over you and you know what

3305
02:38:00,870 --> 02:37:57,610
you've just seen

3306
02:38:03,961 --> 02:38:00,880
and and yet you you think yourself and

3307
02:38:06,390 --> 02:38:03,971
like am I seeing things or is it real

3308
02:38:12,301 --> 02:38:06,400
whatever you know it freak you out what

3309
02:38:16,501 --> 02:38:12,311
happens yeah what did you see uh she

3310
02:38:19,110 --> 02:38:16,511
here I seen a few things in my house and

3311
02:38:21,390 --> 02:38:19,120
it's a new house it's not you know then

3312
02:38:24,990 --> 02:38:21,400
again I can't speak for the land that's

3313
02:38:28,020 --> 02:38:25,000
always another issue sure that inside I

3314
02:38:32,091 --> 02:38:28,030
actually my husband went upstairs to get

3315
02:38:35,551 --> 02:38:32,101
ready for work and I said okay and I

3316
02:38:38,461 --> 02:38:35,561
happen to look up and mind you this is

3317
02:38:42,541 --> 02:38:38,471
10 milli morning hours like 4 o'clock in

3318
02:38:45,301 --> 02:38:42,551
the morning and I see him walking or

3319
02:38:49,020 --> 02:38:45,311
what I thought was him walking across

3320
02:38:52,350 --> 02:38:49,030
the hall upstairs because you can see

3321
02:38:53,970 --> 02:38:52,360
from down below our walkway that leads

3322
02:38:54,600 --> 02:38:53,980
into a rec room which is completely

3323
02:38:56,430 --> 02:38:54,610
empty

3324
02:38:58,650 --> 02:38:56,440
which is why I was kind of hopeful

3325
02:39:02,490 --> 02:38:58,660
because they always have a lower part of

3326
02:39:04,980 --> 02:39:02,500
legs walking across and look like a robe

3327
02:39:06,841 --> 02:39:04,990
but he happened to have on and and I

3328
02:39:09,091 --> 02:39:06,851
thought that I would be going over there

3329
02:39:11,791 --> 02:39:09,101
so I go to the bottom of the stairs and

3330
02:39:16,530 --> 02:39:11,801
I kind of yell up there so what are you

3331
02:39:18,301 --> 02:39:16,540
looking for and no response so I wait

3332
02:39:20,120 --> 02:39:18,311
and to see if he's going to come back

3333
02:39:23,610 --> 02:39:20,130
out and I go what are you looking for

3334
02:39:28,020 --> 02:39:23,620
and I still got no response then I heard

3335
02:39:31,350 --> 02:39:28,030
the shower door closed in the bathroom

3336
02:39:32,730 --> 02:39:31,360
that directly behind me over the kitchen

3337
02:39:36,030 --> 02:39:32,740
sink because that's where the master

3338
02:39:39,631 --> 02:39:36,040
bathroom is dry and when I heard that I

3339
02:39:43,261 --> 02:39:39,641
knew I knew that wasn't him that I saw

3340
02:39:45,511 --> 02:39:43,271
and it's when I kind of got freaked out

3341
02:39:47,490 --> 02:39:45,521
a little bit and I just kind of shook it

3342
02:39:50,100 --> 02:39:47,500
off and couldn't like to tell him when

3343
02:39:56,310 --> 02:39:50,110
you came back downstairs but that's just

3344
02:39:58,470 --> 02:39:56,320
one of many experiences that I've had so

3345
02:40:02,011 --> 02:39:58,480
much I said when it happens to it it's

3346
02:40:06,690 --> 02:40:02,021
kind of jarring a little I I'm with you

3347
02:40:09,001 --> 02:40:06,700
on that and that is sometimes when you

3348
02:40:11,430 --> 02:40:09,011
get that kind of confirmation because

3349
02:40:14,490 --> 02:40:11,440
you know it wasn't your dog

3350
02:40:15,720 --> 02:40:14,500
you know it wasn't your cat you know it

3351
02:40:18,720 --> 02:40:15,730
wasn't you

3352
02:40:20,520 --> 02:40:18,730
you know your house and when you hear

3353
02:40:23,671 --> 02:40:20,530
something like that then it's

3354
02:40:26,220 --> 02:40:23,681
confirmation that something is going on

3355
02:40:29,390 --> 02:40:26,230
did it freak you out did you get scared

3356
02:40:33,570 --> 02:40:29,400
you know or do you just live with it

3357
02:40:36,180 --> 02:40:33,580
well I come over here to put up on my

3358
02:40:39,291 --> 02:40:36,190
arm and and I kind of got that chill and

3359
02:40:42,871 --> 02:40:39,301
and when I realized that I thought okay

3360
02:40:44,341 --> 02:40:42,881
you know that was just walking and you

3361
02:40:46,110 --> 02:40:44,351
know you deal with it because that means

3362
02:40:47,820 --> 02:40:46,120
I fell so am I going to do you can't

3363
02:40:51,541 --> 02:40:47,830
what but you're going to do sell your

3364
02:40:54,060 --> 02:40:51,551
house yeah you can't do much much about

3365
02:40:57,780 --> 02:40:54,070
it you just you see it and it's

3366
02:41:01,200 --> 02:40:57,790
confirmation for me so and at the same

3367
02:41:04,081 --> 02:41:01,210
time now I just recently lost my father

3368
02:41:07,560 --> 02:41:04,091
back in April and I always hear these

3369
02:41:11,881 --> 02:41:07,570
stories that they come and visit you and

3370
02:41:14,610 --> 02:41:11,891
you know I don't know if that's true you

3371
02:41:20,551 --> 02:41:14,620
know if I haven't had that dream yet

3372
02:41:23,041 --> 02:41:20,561
where I've experienced it but I was not

3373
02:41:27,900 --> 02:41:23,051
too long after he had passed laying on

3374
02:41:31,921 --> 02:41:27,910
my side in bed and I could feel what I

3375
02:41:33,690 --> 02:41:31,931
thought was a hand stroking my head and

3376
02:41:39,001 --> 02:41:33,700
I was thinking about him at that time

3377
02:41:43,680 --> 02:41:39,011
and you know close to wanting to cry but

3378
02:41:47,490 --> 02:41:43,690
not crying but I didn't move as soon as

3379
02:41:51,301 --> 02:41:47,500
I felt that what I saw him stroking my

3380
02:41:52,621 --> 02:41:51,311
head I I just stayed really still and I

3381
02:41:56,220 --> 02:41:52,631
didn't even bother to turn around

3382
02:41:59,100 --> 02:41:56,230
truffle both women talking again I don't

3383
02:42:03,631 --> 02:41:59,110
know if there was confirmation you know

3384
02:42:07,411 --> 02:42:03,641
for me but like I said it difference

3385
02:42:09,511 --> 02:42:07,421
what happened and then I don't know what

3386
02:42:11,911 --> 02:42:09,521
to say about it while you're at it it's

3387
02:42:16,530 --> 02:42:11,921
really freaky yeah what's your name I'm

3388
02:42:20,581 --> 02:42:16,540
sorry olya Olivia I'm when you are the

3389
02:42:23,911 --> 02:42:20,591
perfect person to go and see this film

3390
02:42:24,380 --> 02:42:23,921
because you'll know you'll be able to

3391
02:42:32,269 --> 02:42:24,390
call

3392
02:42:34,910 --> 02:42:32,279
bs right uh I don't know I guess so you

3393
02:42:38,090 --> 02:42:34,920
took them again you know i'm not i'm not

3394
02:42:41,000 --> 02:42:38,100
a pro when it comes to cg i know that a

3395
02:42:43,479 --> 02:42:41,010
lot of things can be done with it and so

3396
02:42:49,429 --> 02:42:43,489
I don't know and I know what I've seen

3397
02:42:51,080 --> 02:42:49,439
um well I don't know yeah you I'm not

3398
02:42:52,429 --> 02:42:51,090
one person to be watching things that

3399
02:42:54,200 --> 02:42:52,439
freaked me out per se

3400
02:42:59,540 --> 02:42:54,210
well you bring up a really good point

3401
02:43:01,939 --> 02:42:59,550
Olivia which is this you and I'm

3402
02:43:04,280 --> 02:43:01,949
speaking for Chad if you are going to go

3403
02:43:08,300 --> 02:43:04,290
and and put this film together and make

3404
02:43:11,510 --> 02:43:08,310
claims the last thing that you want out

3405
02:43:14,540 --> 02:43:11,520
there is clever CG and get caught

3406
02:43:17,960 --> 02:43:14,550
because that's it his career his

3407
02:43:19,729 --> 02:43:17,970
reputation is done and I think and that

3408
02:43:22,639 --> 02:43:19,739
includes everybody that's involved with

3409
02:43:24,590 --> 02:43:22,649
the film too as well so I don't think

3410
02:43:29,389 --> 02:43:24,600
it's CG I mean that's that would be a

3411
02:43:31,340 --> 02:43:29,399
bad mistake yeah I don't think I'm not

3412
02:43:34,370 --> 02:43:31,350
saying that that's what oh no what he

3413
02:43:36,860 --> 02:43:34,380
did but you know I I don't know just

3414
02:43:41,360 --> 02:43:36,870
know what I've experienced and continue

3415
02:43:45,139 --> 02:43:41,370
to experience once in a while I don't

3416
02:43:47,149 --> 02:43:45,149
know I suppose I'm curious and and I

3417
02:43:50,570 --> 02:43:47,159
don't know if I will but I am curious

3418
02:43:53,360 --> 02:43:50,580
about it and and because I have seen a

3419
02:43:55,219 --> 02:43:53,370
lot of the paranormal stories and and

3420
02:43:58,070 --> 02:43:55,229
you know I don't know what it is about

3421
02:44:01,580 --> 02:43:58,080
it that draws you into want to watch

3422
02:44:03,530 --> 02:44:01,590
that you there's a part of you that gets

3423
02:44:05,210 --> 02:44:03,540
freaked out about and be like oh you

3424
02:44:06,979 --> 02:44:05,220
know I don't want to see this but then

3425
02:44:09,229 --> 02:44:06,989
you get drawn into it and you can't help

3426
02:44:12,050 --> 02:44:09,239
but look well I know you're gonna go see

3427
02:44:15,500 --> 02:44:12,060
it and after you do what call the show

3428
02:44:16,849 --> 02:44:15,510
Olivia okay okay we'll do have a great

3429
02:44:20,450 --> 02:44:16,859
night thank you for the phone call

3430
02:44:24,590 --> 02:44:20,460
Jimmy thank you bye bye yeah you know

3431
02:44:26,960 --> 02:44:24,600
that's that's a guy it's almost a valid

3432
02:44:27,620 --> 02:44:26,970
reason not to see the film and I

3433
02:44:30,559 --> 02:44:27,630
understand

3434
02:44:32,630 --> 02:44:30,569
Olivia's point I really do but you know

3435
02:44:35,389 --> 02:44:32,640
what I think she's the perfect person to

3436
02:44:37,719 --> 02:44:35,399
go and see the film let's go back to the

3437
02:44:40,539 --> 02:44:37,729
phones hi you're live on fade to black

3438
02:44:42,569 --> 02:44:40,549
Jimmy it's Eric the realtor from LA oh

3439
02:44:45,189 --> 02:44:42,579
hey Eric how are you man

3440
02:44:48,899 --> 02:44:45,199
pretty good brother tonight was really

3441
02:44:52,510 --> 02:44:48,909
good I gotta say I am much more into the

3442
02:44:56,649 --> 02:44:52,520
UFOs of it all right I'm always a little

3443
02:44:58,840 --> 02:44:56,659
more skeptical when it comes to ghosts I

3444
02:45:02,349 --> 02:44:58,850
don't know why really even but I I

3445
02:45:04,389 --> 02:45:02,359
always am right and tonight was good

3446
02:45:07,630 --> 02:45:04,399
this guy came across as totally

3447
02:45:11,590 --> 02:45:07,640
authentic I know right well yeah did you

3448
02:45:13,840 --> 02:45:11,600
watch the trailer I'm going to okay all

3449
02:45:16,840 --> 02:45:13,850
right yeah trip out on the trailer the

3450
02:45:19,329 --> 02:45:16,850
trailer is like I said it's like a

3451
02:45:21,309 --> 02:45:19,339
little mini documentary it's a it's 12

3452
02:45:23,709 --> 02:45:21,319
or 15 minutes long I can't remember it's

3453
02:45:27,219 --> 02:45:23,719
long and it's fun

3454
02:45:30,010 --> 02:45:27,229
and it it sets up the film really really

3455
02:45:32,769 --> 02:45:30,020
well now I've got to be honest with

3456
02:45:36,519 --> 02:45:32,779
everybody I haven't seen the film I

3457
02:45:38,050 --> 02:45:36,529
tried you know me I can like to feel

3458
02:45:41,319 --> 02:45:38,060
like I can talk anybody into anything

3459
02:45:44,889 --> 02:45:41,329
and I made no headway with Eric cuz I

3460
02:45:47,949 --> 02:45:44,899
mean uh with with a Chad it just didn't

3461
02:45:50,590 --> 02:45:47,959
happen so I haven't seen it yet but he

3462
02:45:51,519 --> 02:45:50,600
did describe to me which I don't want to

3463
02:45:55,809 --> 02:45:51,529
give it away

3464
02:45:58,779 --> 02:45:55,819
he described with me fully what happens

3465
02:46:00,399 --> 02:45:58,789
in this film clip and I'm going to tell

3466
02:46:03,760 --> 02:46:00,409
you it fits

3467
02:46:06,010 --> 02:46:03,770
man I can't wait to see it I cannot wait

3468
02:46:08,559 --> 02:46:06,020
I so much want to tell everybody what he

3469
02:46:11,349 --> 02:46:08,569
said because you know he's very colorful

3470
02:46:12,999 --> 02:46:11,359
and I know the way that he described it

3471
02:46:15,309 --> 02:46:13,009
to me is exactly what happens in the

3472
02:46:17,019 --> 02:46:15,319
film and and I know why everybody is

3473
02:46:20,260 --> 02:46:17,029
jumping out of their seats I can't wait

3474
02:46:22,809 --> 02:46:20,270
to see it honestly Jimmy Lake let's say

3475
02:46:24,729 --> 02:46:22,819
there's something real to this right the

3476
02:46:26,949 --> 02:46:24,739
way this guy frames a story it's going

3477
02:46:29,409 --> 02:46:26,959
to be good yeah so I mean the way he

3478
02:46:30,699 --> 02:46:29,419
framed a story about his childhood in

3479
02:46:32,499 --> 02:46:30,709
the upbringing and everything in the

3480
02:46:36,429 --> 02:46:32,509
green hand I mean it was just really

3481
02:46:39,399 --> 02:46:36,439
good well he so yeah and and Eric you've

3482
02:46:42,239 --> 02:46:39,409
you listened to enough shows and you

3483
02:46:47,619 --> 02:46:42,249
know my take on this and this is true

3484
02:46:49,569 --> 02:46:47,629
and my take is all of this everybody in

3485
02:46:53,800 --> 02:46:49,579
America everyone

3486
02:46:55,209 --> 02:46:53,810
has got grandparents who we go visit the

3487
02:46:56,639 --> 02:46:55,219
house and you hear something in your

3488
02:47:00,099 --> 02:46:56,649
grandmother cuz hi that's our ghost

3489
02:47:04,449 --> 02:47:00,109
right that's our girls and right if you

3490
02:47:07,479 --> 02:47:04,459
go so this is nothing new new right and

3491
02:47:10,599 --> 02:47:07,489
and and I mean I grew up with it man my

3492
02:47:12,699 --> 02:47:10,609
uncle Phillip and my uncle bill used to

3493
02:47:17,409 --> 02:47:12,709
mess with me at my grandparents house

3494
02:47:19,569 --> 02:47:17,419
and that I think I probably told the

3495
02:47:22,389 --> 02:47:19,579
story before but in my uncle Phillips

3496
02:47:25,209 --> 02:47:22,399
room upstairs they lived in this old

3497
02:47:29,589 --> 02:47:25,219
house in Hawley Michigan old old old

3498
02:47:32,949 --> 02:47:29,599
house and there was this door that went

3499
02:47:34,719 --> 02:47:32,959
to the attic right to the right of my

3500
02:47:38,279 --> 02:47:34,729
uncle Phillips bed and it was like a

3501
02:47:40,899 --> 02:47:38,289
three foot by three foot door square and

3502
02:47:43,479 --> 02:47:40,909
and he told me men to band the boogie

3503
02:47:45,849 --> 02:47:43,489
Mans in there you know don't go in there

3504
02:47:47,800 --> 02:47:45,859
don't open up the door I'm going to be

3505
02:47:49,599 --> 02:47:47,810
sleeping out is what I'd be visiting

3506
02:47:51,429 --> 02:47:49,609
right now you stay in here I'm going to

3507
02:47:54,039 --> 02:47:51,439
be sleeping out there in the guest room

3508
02:47:56,679 --> 02:47:54,049
you just stay right here but don't don't

3509
02:48:00,369 --> 02:47:56,689
go in there that's all he had to do

3510
02:48:03,339 --> 02:48:00,379
right I was terrified of his bedroom I

3511
02:48:06,429 --> 02:48:03,349
never spent time it was torture for me

3512
02:48:10,089 --> 02:48:06,439
to go to bed torture I would sleep I'm

3513
02:48:14,139 --> 02:48:10,099
five years old looking at this door all

3514
02:48:17,979 --> 02:48:14,149
night long and it and asked me if I ever

3515
02:48:21,849 --> 02:48:17,989
opened it how wild is that did you ever

3516
02:48:23,559 --> 02:48:21,859
open it nope I don't think I'm nervous

3517
02:48:25,689 --> 02:48:23,569
you don't think I would have either no

3518
02:48:27,309 --> 02:48:25,699
never Daniel II don't never did I don't

3519
02:48:29,800 --> 02:48:27,319
know you know Jimmy I think people have

3520
02:48:30,279 --> 02:48:29,810
one of two reactions and I think uh was

3521
02:48:32,319 --> 02:48:30,289
it Olivia

3522
02:48:34,839 --> 02:48:32,329
I think Olivia just framed it very well

3523
02:48:36,489 --> 02:48:34,849
right you either you bulb you sell the

3524
02:48:38,019 --> 02:48:36,499
house for a loss or whatever you got do

3525
02:48:41,379 --> 02:48:38,029
you call somebody like me and you sell

3526
02:48:44,199 --> 02:48:41,389
the house or or you hang out and you

3527
02:48:46,899 --> 02:48:44,209
become just kind of familiar with it

3528
02:48:48,399 --> 02:48:46,909
right you said ah that's just the ghost

3529
02:48:50,709 --> 02:48:48,409
right right right

3530
02:48:53,859 --> 02:48:50,719
I've heard that story oh that's our

3531
02:48:56,050 --> 02:48:53,869
ghost I've heard it 10 20 times you know

3532
02:48:58,929 --> 02:48:56,060
and and that's just the way that it is

3533
02:49:01,929 --> 02:48:58,939
and and our parents and our grandparents

3534
02:49:03,581 --> 02:49:01,939
were cool with it you know that nobody

3535
02:49:07,271 --> 02:49:03,591
was terrified you know you had

3536
02:49:11,411 --> 02:49:07,281
nut it up and deal with the family ghost

3537
02:49:13,781 --> 02:49:11,421
that's it's really and and I'm not I'm

3538
02:49:16,180 --> 02:49:13,791
not planning a flag here Eric you know

3539
02:49:17,801 --> 02:49:16,190
I'm not creating anything you know how

3540
02:49:19,871 --> 02:49:17,811
many people are listening to what I am

3541
02:49:22,091 --> 02:49:19,881
saying right now good yep my grandmother

3542
02:49:24,821 --> 02:49:22,101
said that if my grandfather said that

3543
02:49:27,581 --> 02:49:24,831
yep absolutely it's just so it's a way

3544
02:49:31,441 --> 02:49:27,591
of life here in the United States and

3545
02:49:33,881 --> 02:49:31,451
I'm assuming around the world my uh I

3546
02:49:35,231 --> 02:49:33,891
just wanted I know you got other people

3547
02:49:39,361 --> 02:49:35,241
on the line but I'll tell you my niece

3548
02:49:42,251 --> 02:49:39,371
King she bought a house on the cheap

3549
02:49:45,581 --> 02:49:42,261
because someone had committed suicide in

3550
02:49:49,061 --> 02:49:45,591
the house mm-hmm had hung herself in the

3551
02:49:50,771 --> 02:49:49,071
closet in her master closet and I've

3552
02:49:52,361 --> 02:49:50,781
always been into this kind of stuff

3553
02:49:54,461 --> 02:49:52,371
again a little more skeptical about

3554
02:49:56,680 --> 02:49:54,471
ghosts but the first time I visited the

3555
02:49:58,631 --> 02:49:56,690
house I walked in the house I said don't

3556
02:50:00,461 --> 02:49:58,641
talk everybody stop everything take me

3557
02:50:02,201 --> 02:50:00,471
up into the closet right now I want to

3558
02:50:05,921 --> 02:50:02,211
go up and see if I could get kind of a

3559
02:50:07,720 --> 02:50:05,931
feel for it and she was like nah she was

3560
02:50:09,970 --> 02:50:07,730
like you're not going to feel anything

3561
02:50:11,561 --> 02:50:09,980
she's like it's only kind of she said it

3562
02:50:13,031 --> 02:50:11,571
was at a certain timeframe throughout

3563
02:50:15,281 --> 02:50:13,041
the day and it was only when she was

3564
02:50:17,441 --> 02:50:15,291
there by herself in the house right and

3565
02:50:21,401 --> 02:50:17,451
but she did say that there was something

3566
02:50:24,521 --> 02:50:21,411
real yeah about said there was something

3567
02:50:27,131 --> 02:50:24,531
real to it but what about you I didn't

3568
02:50:29,381 --> 02:50:27,141
feel anything but I will I will tell you

3569
02:50:32,021 --> 02:50:29,391
this and you live in LA so you're going

3570
02:50:33,521 --> 02:50:32,031
to get this experience the next and you

3571
02:50:37,481 --> 02:50:33,531
know we're good samaritan hospital is

3572
02:50:39,791 --> 02:50:37,491
sure you go by there often yeah so right

3573
02:50:41,381 --> 02:50:39,801
near Wilshire in the 110 freeway next

3574
02:50:43,121 --> 02:50:41,391
time you go by there I'm telling we live

3575
02:50:44,890 --> 02:50:43,131
in the building that is directly

3576
02:50:47,861 --> 02:50:44,900
spitting distance directly across the

3577
02:50:49,451 --> 02:50:47,871
street from Good Samaritan right old

3578
02:50:51,191 --> 02:50:49,461
wing we stare right at that picture I

3579
02:50:57,011 --> 02:50:51,201
tweeted out right right right

3580
02:50:58,720 --> 02:50:57,021
and it's I Jimmy nothing scares me I'm

3581
02:51:01,151 --> 02:50:58,730
the most nuts and bolts person you could

3582
02:51:04,271 --> 02:51:01,161
ever you've met me yes so the bottom

3583
02:51:06,930 --> 02:51:04,281
line is I'm telling you me and everybody

3584
02:51:12,071 --> 02:51:06,940
else in this building it just has an

3585
02:51:14,140 --> 02:51:12,081
absolutely creepy do you get a chill on

3586
02:51:16,540 --> 02:51:14,150
your skin when you look up at this thing

3587
02:51:18,040 --> 02:51:16,550
at night you can even get it when you

3588
02:51:20,590 --> 02:51:18,050
and feel it when you look at it in the

3589
02:51:22,479 --> 02:51:20,600
daytime but at night time even our

3590
02:51:24,010 --> 02:51:22,489
security guard doesn't like looking at

3591
02:51:25,479 --> 02:51:24,020
the building he doesn't even like going

3592
02:51:26,500 --> 02:51:25,489
outside and looking at the building

3593
02:51:29,290 --> 02:51:26,510
right right

3594
02:51:31,389 --> 02:51:29,300
well I old wing yeah I know I know the

3595
02:51:34,529 --> 02:51:31,399
exact bill I've been on that corner

3596
02:51:38,649 --> 02:51:34,539
eight million times that's a major major

3597
02:51:42,870 --> 02:51:38,659
in ER and also what Eric is describing

3598
02:51:45,550 --> 02:51:42,880
that part is one of the older older

3599
02:51:47,529 --> 02:51:45,560
neighborhoods in Los Angeles I mean it's

3600
02:51:50,200 --> 02:51:47,539
it's exactly right yep there were the

3601
02:51:51,700 --> 02:51:50,210
many of the Westlake was created a lot

3602
02:51:53,950 --> 02:51:51,710
of old apartment buildings and then

3603
02:51:55,689 --> 02:51:53,960
things the old Pacific dining cars there

3604
02:51:58,420 --> 02:51:55,699
Jimmy and you know that and you know it

3605
02:52:00,399 --> 02:51:58,430
but the a lot of the professional people

3606
02:52:02,950 --> 02:52:00,409
that worked in downtown Los Angeles and

3607
02:52:05,590 --> 02:52:02,960
I'm talking back into even into the 30s

3608
02:52:08,439 --> 02:52:05,600
40s 20s 30s and 40s they lived in these

3609
02:52:12,189 --> 02:52:08,449
old brick apartment tenements that were

3610
02:52:13,569 --> 02:52:12,199
built all around Westlake and very few

3611
02:52:15,340 --> 02:52:13,579
of them exist anymore it's kind of

3612
02:52:17,139 --> 02:52:15,350
becoming a little kind of bougie now

3613
02:52:19,809 --> 02:52:17,149
people like me are moving in but right

3614
02:52:22,599 --> 02:52:19,819
the bottom line is that you still got a

3615
02:52:24,010 --> 02:52:22,609
lot of these older buildings and like

3616
02:52:25,479 --> 02:52:24,020
Olivia was saying you never know about

3617
02:52:26,649 --> 02:52:25,489
the ground underneath you just never

3618
02:52:28,479 --> 02:52:26,659
know I mean there's just so much

3619
02:52:30,969 --> 02:52:28,489
happened and it's just such an old area

3620
02:52:33,729 --> 02:52:30,979
you hear a lot of stories about Westlake

3621
02:52:35,649 --> 02:52:33,739
and they've built this new wing and it

3622
02:52:37,359 --> 02:52:35,659
actually makes it creepier you would

3623
02:52:40,300 --> 02:52:37,369
think oh they built this new modern

3624
02:52:43,090 --> 02:52:40,310
building the juxtaposition of this

3625
02:52:46,929 --> 02:52:43,100
ultra-modern new wing I tweeted it out

3626
02:52:49,630 --> 02:52:46,939
of the new Good Samaritan add on right

3627
02:52:53,830 --> 02:52:49,640
next to I mean that because yeah yeah

3628
02:52:56,319 --> 02:52:53,840
yeah the old hundred year old wing it's

3629
02:52:58,689 --> 02:52:56,329
just absolutely creepy I cannot put it

3630
02:53:01,479 --> 02:52:58,699
in the word strongly enough everybody

3631
02:53:06,580 --> 02:53:01,489
here in the building talks about it yeah

3632
02:53:10,269 --> 02:53:06,590
and I and again that that new building I

3633
02:53:13,920 --> 02:53:10,279
I was over there we filmed some of the

3634
02:53:16,300 --> 02:53:13,930
new TV show down there and we were at a

3635
02:53:18,790 --> 02:53:16,310
park right there man right across

3636
02:53:22,889 --> 02:53:18,800
Wilshire right right there like Wilshire

3637
02:53:25,719 --> 02:53:22,899
Normandy you know oh yeah yeah and

3638
02:53:26,950 --> 02:53:25,729
there's a park there and you'll see it

3639
02:53:28,740 --> 02:53:26,960
in the new show when it comes out a

3640
02:53:32,880 --> 02:53:28,750
couple of scenes

3641
02:53:35,730 --> 02:53:32,890
we faced the hospital and the new wing

3642
02:53:40,710 --> 02:53:35,740
that you're talking about it's a no

3643
02:53:44,400 --> 02:53:40,720
matter what it's on top of the old what

3644
02:53:44,820 --> 02:53:44,410
do you call it foundation that's exactly

3645
02:53:48,960 --> 02:53:44,830
right

3646
02:53:51,150 --> 02:53:48,970
yep they had to sink when they began

3647
02:53:53,790 --> 02:53:51,160
construction it started to shake the old

3648
02:53:56,280 --> 02:53:53,800
wing dries and they the city made him

3649
02:53:59,460 --> 02:53:56,290
come in and sink an additional like a

3650
02:54:02,430 --> 02:53:59,470
30-foot wall down into the ground a big

3651
02:54:06,270 --> 02:54:02,440
concrete partition down into the ground

3652
02:54:08,340 --> 02:54:06,280
to stop the shaking when they are right

3653
02:54:11,250 --> 02:54:08,350
next to each other and it is just a very

3654
02:54:12,840 --> 02:54:11,260
strange it makes it more creepy than if

3655
02:54:15,780 --> 02:54:12,850
the buildings there by itself it's this

3656
02:54:18,150 --> 02:54:15,790
strange old and new juxtaposition and it

3657
02:54:20,040 --> 02:54:18,160
is just the creepiest thing in the world

3658
02:54:21,420 --> 02:54:20,050
said I found out a year I've been here

3659
02:54:23,360 --> 02:54:21,430
two years I found out a year after I

3660
02:54:25,620 --> 02:54:23,370
moved in that it's where they brought

3661
02:54:28,020 --> 02:54:25,630
RFK when he was shot it's a very

3662
02:54:32,130 --> 02:54:28,030
historical hospital I mean speaking of

3663
02:54:35,970 --> 02:54:32,140
RFK now this is the other trippy thing

3664
02:54:39,180 --> 02:54:35,980
they built a new high school on top of

3665
02:54:45,300 --> 02:54:39,190
the old Ambassador Hotel where RFK was

3666
02:54:49,200 --> 02:54:45,310
shot and killed right now whoa who would

3667
02:54:52,350 --> 02:54:49,210
send your kid right to that I school I

3668
02:54:54,150 --> 02:54:52,360
mean I remember and and anybody that

3669
02:54:56,460 --> 02:54:54,160
lives here in LA we watched that High

3670
02:54:58,560 --> 02:54:56,470
School get built for years man it just

3671
02:55:01,320 --> 02:54:58,570
took forever to complete that project

3672
02:55:05,240 --> 02:55:01,330
and I'm thinking about so that's that's

3673
02:55:07,590 --> 02:55:05,250
just a creepy idea why would you do that

3674
02:55:09,840 --> 02:55:07,600
well there's just nowhere left to go

3675
02:55:14,850 --> 02:55:09,850
here there's no word left to build go

3676
02:55:17,040 --> 02:55:14,860
and and live so so you just you you take

3677
02:55:20,160 --> 02:55:17,050
the ghost and you go for it you build a

3678
02:55:21,870 --> 02:55:20,170
high school on top of where JR RFK was

3679
02:55:23,670 --> 02:55:21,880
shot in the kitchen at the Ambassador

3680
02:55:25,050 --> 02:55:23,680
there there that everything out here

3681
02:55:27,240 --> 02:55:25,060
that successively we all do it

3682
02:55:28,980 --> 02:55:27,250
Eric man you have a great rest of your

3683
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night my friend and it's good to hear

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your voice all right you too can I can I

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read a mic

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good night Eric VAD he's right across

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the street from the Goodson

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that is a creepy building no question

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about it okay really quick for all of

3690
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you flat earthers out there there's an

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arizona company it's called world view

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enterprises and they plan to send

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flat-earthers up on balloons into the

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stratosphere high enough to see the

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curves of the earth and the blackness of

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space but its first passenger that

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they're sending up is a fried chicken

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sandwich that that's right the company

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said today that the first flight of a

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fully equipped high-flying balloon would

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take off as soon as June 21st with its

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first payload a kentucky fried chicken

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sandwich you've seen the commercials

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with Colonel Sanders played by Rob Lowe

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it's pretty funny and he riffs on john f

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kennedy's 1962 speech if we choose to go

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to the moon right well there you go the

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first passenger is going to be a KFC

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fried chicken sandwich after that it's

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going to be flattered if there's one

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after another

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I want to thank Chad Kay look for an

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amazing conversation tonight and

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everybody that called in I'm Yours Timmy

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